(2017-04-17, 7:13 pm)weab00 Wrote: How long does it take to make decks generally? Because Genki has around 60 words per chapter.
It takes me maybe 2 minutes to add each card for the average card (well, key term which creates a kana card always, and another card for each kanji spelling that I include, so usually 1 kana and 1 kanji card), but most of that time is looking up the word and picking out a sentence, then I just use rikai-sama's Anki integration to fill in 90% of what I want on the card. (I guess I'm gonna have to learn how to use yomi to do the same thing soon.) Actual card creation is far less than a minute.
Going from Genki... it depends on if you already have an electronic version of the sentences, how fast you type, etc. On the one hand you're probably manually typing but on the other hand you'll never hit a poor dictionary entry and have to go searching around the web for an example. I think three minutes per card would be a leisurely pace with plenty of time to double check mistakes, you could probably go twice that fast if you're an accurate typist and get accustomed to the field order on your cards.
If you have all the sentences already in a spreadsheet, you could do it a whole lot faster. Typing all the data into a spreadsheet first and then importing it is actually probably faster than filling in the fields inside Anki.
(2017-04-17, 7:14 pm)Zarxrax Wrote: I don't like sentences because I learn to recognize the sentences themselves rather than actually learning the content. If I see the word in another context I don't know it. I prefer word cards to sentences in that regard.
But the best of all I think, are short collocations of usually 3 or 4 words, with an English prompt.
I used to worry about this, but I came to realize two things:
First, that I really just can't apply what I learn from single-word cards. I can answer it in isolation as a quiz question, but I can't read it in context. (What ends up happening is I go to type the word I learned in isolation into a dictionary... and now that it's out of the sentence and I'm looking at in isolation I recognize it and don't even have to search it.)
And then... so what if you learn the sentence? If you can recite the entire sentence from beginning to end the moment that you see the first word and roughly the length of the sentence (which I can for some of my sentences) ... well, then, you've got that word in your memory somewhere obviously because you've got the sentence in both languages memorized!
It turns out though that over a long time and a large deck that sentence memorization happens less and less. The further apart reviews get the less fresh the sentence is in your memory, and the more sentences you add, the more similar sentences you have making it less obvious which sentence you're reading until you actually read the whole thing.
In practice, I'm much more likely to correctly read in context in native materials my 'sentence' words than my 'isolated' words.
I do prefer shorter sentences as too much context can create sentences that practically define the word for you even if you've completely forgotten it, but that's a different issue from the memorized sentence problem. Also easily avoided by not picking sentences with a large amount of redundancy. (For the OPs purpose that shouldn't be a problem. Textbook sentences are generally pretty concise.)