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My little 2017 lower intermediate thread

#76
I'm planning to add a pre-made deck eventually to add review material, although, I'm really inexperienced with them.

Which decks would you guys recommend me to add once I'm done with the MNH 初級 level?



My planned progress to attempt JLPT N2 is the following:

I'm currently studying 6 days out of 7.

Adding 28 new Heisig Kanji everyday.
Studying all the vocabulary and the grammar from MNH lesson, at the pace of 1 lesson per day. (sometimes 1 lesson in 2 days when I want to drill better some grammar points).

If I don't get any delay, I should finish Heisig by April 12th.
From there on, I will have to review the onyomi and kunyomi of the 1000 JLPT2 Kanjis (I'm already doing it now, but I will do it more seriously after I'm done with Heisig). This means that I will be forced to review 15 Kanji (and a great deal of compounds) per day. Not sure I can do that, but why not trying? Wink



I have to say that these forums were very, very motivational for me. Thanks to you guys I started using flash cards for the first time in my life and I'm questioning why I didn't before. I'm still fixing my study method day by day when I see soemething works better.
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#77
February Stats

grammar: a backlog of 104 reviews, with 644 mature (2/1) - a backlog of 174 reviews, with 640 mature (1/1) = ?
kanji: 728 mature - 727 mature = +1
vocab: 5,475 mature - 5,416 mature = +59

Biggest thing was starting lessons again. Followed by weekly anime watching and some reading. But I just got a few english books from the library, so I haven't been reading much Japanese lately.

Kinda surprised that I learned so much vocab, because I've really been trying to keep the reviews low.
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#78
It's definitely true that when you state something, you will screw up.

I was following my strict program but then random events stopped me from studying properly last week.
1. Super busy at work
2. Wife crying all the night and I had to stay with her

I never skipped my reviews though, and I was still able to study a bit.

February 8 (tuesday) stats:

Elementary Minna no Nihongo Review: from 30 to 33 (only 3 lessons...)
Heiseg: from 340 to 464 (Here I though I did less!)

I find Heisig very helpful but some keywords, at least in the Italian version, are too similar. Thankfully I'm just replacing such keywords with the most common onyomi or kunyomi of the kanji when it doesn't make sense. There are just few cases but it's definitely helping.

Vocabulary: I have no idea! But it's growing and growing. I'm not really counting how many words I add, but I probably added around 150/200 this week. I'm adding all the words I find in the MNH review, and not only those, there is a section in the grammar book called "useful words", I'm adding those as well.
Edited: 2017-02-08, 12:52 am
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#79
Well for one reason or another, I finally had an opportunity to visit the local kinokuniya. Got myself a few non Japanese study things (stationary) and bought myself this N3 Sou Matome book. Hopefully making this purchase will give me the *push* I need to really get back into studying Japanese. I can't claim to have an AA degree in Japanese if I don't have some language ability.
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#80
I feel like whenever I'm posting here I'm just getting out of a study slump or something... But I guess that's just how it is if you are an on and off learner like me. *oops*

So, here we go: I'm currently getting out of a study slump! Big Grin Reviews have been piling up for a while but for the last few days I've been starting to tackle them. I did review some grammar here and there over the last few weeks, so it's not as if I stopped completely. Nothing systematic though, but I think that's just fine. I'm not really adding much new material just yet, but I'll probably just go ahead with it when I feel like it. (I'm really not someone who "clears all the backlog" before adding new stuff, because I find that rather depressing, and even if I feel super motivated I usually prefer spreading "clearing the backlog" out over a few days, so that the huge lump of reviews won't come back to haunt me all at once)

I think one problem that got me into the slump this time around is that I don't really have anything Japanese I'm super interested in right now. I liked watching some anime last season, but this season nothing has really piqued my interest yet. That hasn't really changed over the last few days, but... I somehow just REALLY felt like learning Japanese. I mean there's fun in that itself as well... right? Right??? I just sometimes tend to forget that, but I guess that's all good as long as I always come back to it.

@RawrPk Ah, when I read "sou matome" I thought you meant the usual books (you know the ones split up for reading/listening etc) but that's actually the 500mon book. I've seen an older version (for the old jlpt) in my local university bib and I kind of liked it. But at that point most of the stuff inside was still new to me, and it kind of felt like it would work better for review (and plugging some holes) than learning new stuff alltogether. But I think I like the format, it seems good to get some short practice in whenever you feel like it. I'm curious how you will like it Smile
Edited: 2017-02-14, 10:37 am
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#81
Hey guys!

My weekly update.

(Posted Feb15)

February 14 (Tuesday) stats:

Elementary Minna no Nihongo Review: from 33 to 35 (This is slowing down a lot!)
Heisig: from 464 to 563 (I'm now finally into the make your own story part of the book)

So basically I'm still reviewing grammar that I'm supposed to know, but I'm finding very useful to review the whole Minna No Nihongo, mostly for the vocabulary and for the kanji associated with it.

I really want to finish Heisig to dedicate myself to Kanjis in the REAL WAY. Heising is helping me a lot to memorize Kanji in the REAL WAY whenever I find a word that uses a Kanji that I already studied in Heisig.
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#82
(2017-02-14, 10:24 am)sumsum Wrote: @RawrPk Ah, when I read "sou matome" I thought you meant the usual books (you know the ones split up for reading/listening etc) but that's actually the 500mon book. I've seen an older version (for the old jlpt) in my local university bib and I kind of liked it. But at that point most of the stuff inside was still new to me, and it kind of felt like it would work better for review (and plugging some holes) than learning new stuff alltogether. But I think I like the format, it seems good to get some short practice in whenever you feel like it. I'm curious how you will like it Smile

I already own the entire N3 Sou Matome set but only called the new 500 Mon the review book because this version is specifically used to review after studying the set. I have "acquired" the older version too which is N3-N2 level. I thought buying the new version would be better due to the fact that it is still N3 level and streamlines with the Sou Matome set.

The Shin Nihongo Mon 500 book (what I like to call the "N3 Sou Matome review book"; should have been more specific XD ) is a book that should be used after studying the N3 Sou Matome set.

white rabbit japan Wrote:Recommended for you if:
  • You already learned some or most of the N3 kanji, vocabulary and grammar.
  • You want to prepare specially for JLPT N3.
  • You want an easy way to review what you have learned so far.

My plan is to review the Sou Matome set first and then use the Mon 500 afterwards. I'm sure it will be a great help.
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#83
I have a question for you guys.

How do you make / manage your grammar decks? I'd like to start a grammar deck as well (I didn't yet), and I'm looking for hints. What's in your opinion the best way to make it?

Something like


FRONT OF THE CARD:
A sentence with the grammar part of it highlighted

BACK OF THE CARD:
An explanation of the rule?
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#84
(2017-02-15, 7:58 pm)TheNoll Wrote: I have a question for you guys.

How do you make / manage your grammar decks? I'd like to start a grammar deck as well (I didn't yet), and I'm looking for hints. What's in your opinion the best way to make it?

Something like


FRONT OF THE CARD:
A sentence with the grammar part of it highlighted

BACK OF THE CARD:
An explanation of the rule?

I have had a terrible time with this. As much as I love anki, my grammar decks have been my least successful. I have many leeches and even the ones that consistently pass, I don't know as well as I should and often struggle with exam questions.

I have one deck that simply has the grammar point and a translation of the grammar point; I still review this, because it was my oldest grammar deck, but it is basically only useful for briefly reviewing grammar that I have seen in reading and understand well. For anything that I'm not familiar with from reading, it is all but useless.

I've been having more success with a deck where I put an entire sentence with the grammar point highlighted on the front, and a full explanation of the rule on the back. It is important to have more than one sentence (note/card) per grammar point, and if I were doing it again I would repeat the explanation of the rule on every card (right now I have some that are just additional example sentences, and sometimes I wish I could review the full explanation on the examples).

It's important to include information about what forms of connections the point allows, as that is often what the exams test (i.e. preceded by present/past tense of verb, followed by a noun, etc).

Because of the way grammar is tested on the JLPT, I think the cloze style might be best of all, but I personally find cloze frustrating (I keep guessing a related expression, and then wondering if the other expression would fit the sentence as well). But there is a Grammar Domination cloze-style deck that people speak highly of and that I would like to try at some point.
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#85
(2017-02-15, 7:58 pm)TheNoll Wrote: I have a question for you guys.

How do you make / manage your grammar decks? I'd like to start a grammar deck as well (I didn't yet), and I'm looking for hints. What's in your opinion the best way to make it?

Something like


FRONT OF THE CARD:
A sentence with the grammar part of it highlighted

BACK OF THE CARD:
An explanation of the rule?

I don't have very many 'grammar' cards, but the ones that I do have are simply disguised as vocabulary cards, with the 'grammatical expression' as the 'vocabulary word'.

So it would be like
Front:
学校行きました

Back:
学校行きました
I went to school
に: at, on, to

(Except, y'know, using complete definitions and sentences got from a reliable source instead of made up off the cuff, but for the sake of illustrating the idea that'll do.)

I thought about doing clozes but never could be bothered.
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#86
Hey guys,

I wanted to point out that NHK has a nice article today:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/k1001088...31000.html

I learned some very useful words from it:

議会
議員
築地市馬
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#87
My weekly update

February 22

I was so busy this week that I didn't study much. I feel ashamed.
Thing is, I got a job promotion and... well, many things to do because of it.
Today I have over 600 ANKI cards accumulated from the past 2 days. I will clear them tonight after work...

Here's my progress:

Elementary Minna no Nihongo Review: from 35 to 37
Heisig: from 563 to 640
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