Love the idea! Is it easy searching the Core10k deck for Genki though?

No. Just search each vocab word one at a time.

Yeah, what uchuu said, basically. There's no special 'search for genki' function, but it is easy enough to search up a word. It only takes a few seconds for each term, so a few minutes for each chapter. There's probably some way that you can find a spreadsheet of words included in genki and sort your core deck to put those at the top, and then you can just at the terms in order or unsuspend just the top terms, etc., etc., ... but honestly it would probably take more time to work out the technology than to just unsuspend the words as you go.

Here is a website with all the Genki vocabulary http://www.csus.edu/indiv/s/sheaa/projec..._main.html

[EDIT] I mentioned this before in another forum but here is a website with a list of JRPG vocabulary if you're interested https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Japanese.../Videogame

Okay, I decided to go with the Assimil method. Going to do 1 and then 2 while doing the rest of RTK and then after that start Core10k and dive into native materials. Also, when I brought up searching a deck I meant the Core10k deck, not Genki. People are telling me that Assimil is more advanced and gets into more things than Genki so I'm going to use that plus Tae Kim + Japanese the Manga Way.

Material to read after Assimil 2 and RTK:

Graded Reader 0-4

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/4872177118...ref=plSrch


Read Real Japanese Fiction: Short Stories by Contemporary Writers 


http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1568365292...AV06236D1E

Great choices, especially "Read Real Japanese" book. I was recommend to read that in the N3 thread to help transition into reading light novels.As of right now I'm just reading manga.

(2016-05-29, 10:53 pm)Queen of Mars Wrote: Okay, I decided to go with the Assimil method. Going to do 1 and then 2 while doing the rest of RTK and then after that start Core10k and dive into native materials. Also, when I brought up searching a deck I meant the Core10k deck, not Genki. People are telling me that Assimil is more advanced and gets into more things than Genki so I'm going to use that plus Tae Kim + Japanese the Manga Way.

Material to read after Assimil 2 and RTK:

Graded Reader 0-4

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/4872177118...ref=plSrch


Read Real Japanese Fiction: Short Stories by Contemporary Writers 


http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1568365292...AV06236D1E

I wish I had started out like this. Ganbatte!

If the screenshots are indicative, I don't think it should take too long to be able to read these with reasonable understanding.

However! You will need to study things that are relevant. Stuff like '魔物の気配を感じた' is incredibly common ... in anime, manga, and games. Not in the real world and not in exams. If you study from anime, manga, and games you will encounter sentences like that all the time ... I doubt you're going to find it in Core.
Also, the style of speech there is very casual spoken-style. Again, it's not something you're likely to encounter in textbooks or exam preparation material - but if you study from similar native material you'll run into it constantly.

If you must do Core, I'd say only do 2K, then change to sentence mining/subs2srs focusing on relevant media.

The stronger your base (kanji, grammar, vocab), the easier it is to dive into things you like. However, as you notice, it'll still take work but in the end you'll likely have cemented the use of Japanese you know, learned more Japanese on top of that and had fun. One should not be embarrassed to learn Japanese to play games. Sometimes it feels people only learn Japanese to pass a test because reasons. Plus, you don't need to know every word in the game to enjoy it fully. Hell, I've been reading The Expanse and A Song of Ice and Fire in my native language and don't know a number of the terms. Still lots of fun.

Great thing about RPGs is they have a lot directions and descriptions which will come in handy. The annoyingly excessive use of katakana not so much.

(2016-05-30, 4:33 am)I\m sremvik Wrote:

(2016-05-29, 10:53 pm)Queen of Mars Wrote: Okay, I decided to go with the Assimil method. Going to do 1 and then 2 while doing the rest of RTK and then after that start Core10k and dive into native materials. Also, when I brought up searching a deck I meant the Core10k deck, not Genki. People are telling me that Assimil is more advanced and gets into more things than Genki so I'm going to use that plus Tae Kim + Japanese the Manga Way.

Material to read after Assimil 2 and RTK:

Graded Reader 0-4

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/4872177118...ref=plSrch


Read Real Japanese Fiction: Short Stories by Contemporary Writers 


http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1568365292...AV06236D1E

I wish I had started out like this. Ganbatte!

Eh? That good of an outline?

Nukemarine Wrote:The stronger your base (kanji, grammar, vocab), the easier it is to dive into things you like. However, as you notice, it'll still take work but in the end you'll likely have cemented the use of Japanese you know, learned more Japanese on top of that and had fun. One should not be embarrassed to learn Japanese to play games. Sometimes it feels people only learn Japanese to pass a test because reasons. Plus, you don't need to know every word in the game to enjoy it fully. Hell, I've been reading The Expanse and A Song of Ice and Fire in my native language and don't know a number of the terms. Still lots of fun.

Great thing about RPGs is they have a lot directions and descriptions which will come in handy.  The annoyingly excessive use of katakana not so much.

Can't wait. And you're right about ASOIAF. You do learn from context sometimes.

When would it be a good idea to start doing Shadowing: Let's Speak Japanese?

After Assimil?

(2016-05-30, 11:04 pm)Queen of Mars Wrote: When would it be a good idea to start doing Shadowing: Let's Speak Japanese?

After Assimil?

That seems reasonable if that's what you want to do. Reading practice will more directly get you to your goal of playing games, but if you also want to have a lot of conversations then shadowing is good. Of course there's no reason you can't work on shadowing and graded readers at the same time. They build different skills so there's no 'right' order there.

Hey there.

For a while I was using a study approach that might be applicable for you.

Basically, for vocabulary, I had 2 decks. One was called "In Class" and one was called "Out of Class". For a while I was adding 2 new cards a day from each.

Basically, it sounds like you already have a very specific goal. But of course, you still need to learn the basics like everyone else. But the basics will probably never have all the specialized vocabulary in the niche you're interested in. So why not attack both goals at the same time? For me, "out of class" vocab comes from the technical field I work in, NHK easy news, conversations I have with friends, manga I read and anime I watch.

Here I'm assuming that learning all the vocabulary in the game will get you a long way towards understanding it. Presumably there will be some grammar that isn't covered in the basic courses. But probably if you know most of the words being used, it will still be a very enjoyable experience for you. You'll get a nice "level up!" feeling from just that.

I would suggest trying to somehow get a vocabulary list for "video game" Japanese or, ideally, the exact game you're interested in, and making that part of your daily study routine.

Also, would it be interesting for you to understand other games as well? If so, you might want to ask around for easy games to mine for vocab and start playing them as well.

Although my MAIN goal is to play RPGs in Japanese it's not my only goal. I also want to have a solid foundation and the ability to speak to natives too. I have plans for my Japanese and it also involves actual people. Good idea though.

Think of being able to play JRPGs as a short term goal while communication as a long term. My short term is to be able to comprehend Japanese media in general (anime/manga, TV, movies, games, etc).

Here is a fun channel to look at involving learning to play games in Japanese called Game Grammar. Basically they play sniplets of games and explain the grammar behind the dialog involved. They even have made Anki decks for some of the episodes featured in their channel.