Yes, I know it goes against the "spirit" of Anki to not do frequent reviews of cards/words you've already seen. But I kind of want to go through an entire deck to get exposed to each card at least once before I start reviewing them.

I have the "Show new cards in random order" selected, and 0 under Maximum Reviews a day selected - and that seems to help a little bit, but not enough.

Are there any more settings that would help?

(2016-02-02, 7:11 am)Snesgamer Wrote: Yes, I know it goes against the "spirit" of Anki to not do frequent reviews of cards/words you've already seen. But I kind of want to go through an entire deck to get exposed to each card at least once before I start reviewing them.

I have the "Show new cards in random order" selected, and 0 under Maximum Reviews a day selected - and that seems to help a little bit, but not enough.

Are there any more settings that would help?

Try this:  "browse" the deck and then do "preview".  The "preview" will let you look at one card at a time, by pushing the right arrow.  I'm not sure if you can do that in random order though.

Your comment reminds me of why I don't use Anki:  it's not flexible enough.  Sometimes it's good to just run through a whole deck in order and look at ALL cards even the ones you know really well, simply because the ones you know well often serve as memory triggers for the others that you don't know as well.

Also reviewing in Heisig order helps too. Sometimes when I have trouble recalling a character if I can remember which characters come before it and after it in Heisig that helps me remember.

Quote:I have the "Show new cards in random order" selected, and 0 under Maximum Reviews a day selected - and that seems to help a little bit, but not enough.

What, specifically, does this do, then, and why is it not enough?

(2016-02-02, 7:11 am)Snesgamer Wrote: Yes, I know it goes against the "spirit" of Anki to not do frequent reviews of cards/words you've already seen. But I kind of want to go through an entire deck to get exposed to each card at least once before I start reviewing them.

I have the "Show new cards in random order" selected, and 0 under Maximum Reviews a day selected - and that seems to help a little bit, but not enough.

Are there any more settings that would help?

Well, it goes against the point of spaced repetition, in general, as far as reviews go.   As for learning, anki isn't optimal, but if you want to do that, you would make a Filtered Deck.

Tools --> Create Filtered deck

In there under search enter 

Code:

deck:"YourDeckName"

Limit to whatever, cards selected by Random

Uncheck "Reschedule cards based on my answers in this deck!

Check Custom steps, and in there enter whatever interval you would like, I'd say for what you want 30 is pretty good.  If you fail it, you'll see it in  30 minutes, otherwise the card will phase out.

(2016-02-02, 7:53 am)Vempele Wrote:

Quote:I have the "Show new cards in random order" selected, and 0 under Maximum Reviews a day selected - and that seems to help a little bit, but not enough.

What, specifically, does this do, then, and why is it not enough?

Shows me a few repeat cards (around 5 or so), and then starts introducing me to mostly new ones after that. If I let it sit for a few minutes, though - it reverts back to the "review" cards, even if I keep giving the easiest answer that's supposed to set it back for months.

(2016-02-02, 8:02 am)RandomQuotes Wrote:

(2016-02-02, 7:11 am)Snesgamer Wrote: Yes, I know it goes against the "spirit" of Anki to not do frequent reviews of cards/words you've already seen. But I kind of want to go through an entire deck to get exposed to each card at least once before I start reviewing them.

I have the "Show new cards in random order" selected, and 0 under Maximum Reviews a day selected - and that seems to help a little bit, but not enough.

Are there any more settings that would help?

Well, it goes against the point of spaced repetition, in general, as far as reviews go.   As for learning, anki isn't optimal, but if you want to do that, you would make a Filtered Deck.

Tools --> Create Filtered deck

In there under search enter 

Code:

deck:"YourDeckName"

Limit to whatever, cards selected by Random

Uncheck "Reschedule cards based on my answers in this deck!

Check Custom steps, and in there enter whatever interval you would like, I'd say for what you want 30 is pretty good.  If you fail it, you'll see it in  30 minutes, otherwise the card will phase out.

Thank you, I think this will help. Yes, I agree, it goes against the point of SRS - but that said, it would be SO easy for Anki to be both a great SRS program and a great generic flashcard program as well, it's a shame more effort isn't done on that end especially since it wouldn't take much.

(2016-02-02, 8:38 am)Snesgamer Wrote:

(2016-02-02, 8:02 am)RandomQuotes Wrote:

(2016-02-02, 7:11 am)Snesgamer Wrote: Yes, I know it goes against the "spirit" of Anki to not do frequent reviews of cards/words you've already seen. But I kind of want to go through an entire deck to get exposed to each card at least once before I start reviewing them.

I have the "Show new cards in random order" selected, and 0 under Maximum Reviews a day selected - and that seems to help a little bit, but not enough.

Are there any more settings that would help?

Well, it goes against the point of spaced repetition, in general, as far as reviews go.   As for learning, anki isn't optimal, but if you want to do that, you would make a Filtered Deck.

Tools --> Create Filtered deck

In there under search enter 

Code:

deck:"YourDeckName"

Limit to whatever, cards selected by Random

Uncheck "Reschedule cards based on my answers in this deck!

Check Custom steps, and in there enter whatever interval you would like, I'd say for what you want 30 is pretty good.  If you fail it, you'll see it in  30 minutes, otherwise the card will phase out.

Thank you, I think this will help. Yes, I agree, it goes against the point of SRS - but that said, it would be SO easy for Anki to be both a great SRS program and a great generic flashcard program as well, it's a shame more effort isn't done on that end especially since it wouldn't take much.


Exactly!

Anki needs a large, red button you can click on to switch off the annoying SRS feature and make it a generic flashcard program.

(2016-02-02, 10:15 am)john555 Wrote: Exactly!

Anki needs a large, red button you can click on to switch off the annoying SRS feature and make it a generic flashcard program.

1) No it doesn't. If you want a generic flashcard program, then use a generic flashcard program. The point is that spaced repetition has known to improve memory recall since the 1930s, and this effect of spacing on memory retention was first noticed in the 1880s. Whether you care to acknowledge it or not, the data doesn't change.

2) If you can't take the time to find some generic software suitable for your own uses, I already explained how to turn anki into a generic flashcard program: used a filtered deck.

(2016-02-02, 10:59 am)RandomQuotes Wrote:

(2016-02-02, 10:15 am)john555 Wrote: Exactly!

Anki needs a large, red button you can click on to switch off the annoying SRS feature and make it a generic flashcard program.

1) No it doesn't.  If you want a generic flashcard program, then use a generic flashcard program.  The point is that spaced repetition has known to improve memory recall since the 1930s, and this effect of spacing on memory retention was first noticed in the 1880s.   Whether you care to acknowledge it or not, the data doesn't change.

2) If you can't take the time to find some generic software suitable for your own uses,  I already explained how to turn anki into a generic flashcard program: used a filtered deck.

LOL!  This forum should be called "post anything at all and watch people come running and take a fit and disagree with you."

(2016-02-02, 11:06 am)john555 Wrote: LOL!  This forum should be called "post anything at all and watch people come running and take a fit and disagree with you."

First, learn to read for comprehension.

Quote:Tools --> Create Filtered deck

In there under search enter
Code:
deck:"YourDeckName"

Limit to whatever, cards selected by Random

Uncheck "Reschedule cards based on my answers in this deck!

Check Custom steps, and in there enter whatever interval you would like, I'd say for what you want 30 is pretty good.  If you fail it, you'll see it in  30 minutes, otherwise the card will phase out.

There's your big red generic flashcard button.

Second, don't post categorically false things without the slightest shred of evidence, and you won't be called out for it.

Third, the only person who regularly elicits that kind of response is you.  Take that as you see fit.

(2016-02-02, 11:06 am)john555 Wrote: LOL!  This forum should be called "post anything at all and watch people come running and take a fit and disagree with you."

No, it shouldn't.

(2016-02-02, 1:25 pm)my Stansfield123 Wrote:

(2016-02-02, 11:06 am)john555 Wrote: LOL!  This forum should be called "post anything at all and watch people come running and take a fit and disagree with you."

No, it shouldn't.

LOL!  You just proved my point

(2016-02-02, 7:11 am)Snesgamer Wrote: Yes, I know it goes against the "spirit" of Anki to not do frequent reviews of cards/words you've already seen. But I kind of want to go through an entire deck to get exposed to each card at least once before I start reviewing them.

I have the "Show new cards in random order" selected, and 0 under Maximum Reviews a day selected - and that seems to help a little bit, but not enough.

Are there any more settings that would help?

Yes. And it's really easy: You hit Browse, select the right deck, make sure it's ordered by the field you want (odds are it's in the right order already, but you should check: you can pick any field to order by, ordering by "Due" would work perfectly for a new deck), and then hit "Preview..." in the upper right corner.

This gives you exactly what you want: allows you to go through your cards in order, and shows you the cards just like they look when you review them.

Only difference is that, instead of hitting 1,2,3,4 and space, to move forward or bring up an answer, you hit the right arrow key (or the left one to move backwards).

One small issue is that you can't save your progress...since this literally just previews the deck, it doesn't add any kind of metadata to it. So it's like reading a printed book. You can flip the pages, or go to a specific page, but you can't save anything. Like it's been said, Anki is an SRS program, so this function is only there to help people check their decks (for errors, or to see exactly what's in them, before they start to review). It's not meant as an alternative way to study a deck. But you can remember your progress, and scroll to where you left off before hitting Preview, the next time. So, @john555, turns out you CAN use Anki as a generic flashcard program. There isn't one giant red button, but you can get there by pressing two buttons.

(2016-02-02, 1:29 pm)john555 Wrote: LOL!  You just proved my point

No, I didn't 

(2016-02-02, 1:50 pm)Stansfield123 Wrote:

(2016-02-02, 1:29 pm)john555 Wrote: LOL!  You just proved my point

No, I didn't 

Flashbacks to the Monty Python's I'd like to buy an argument skit.

(2016-02-02, 7:11 am)Snesgamer Wrote: Are there any more settings that would help?

With all of the trolling in this thread I can't tell if you got an answer.

In the deck screen with the "Study Now" button, at the bottom:
1) Click Custom Study
2) Click Preview New Cards
3) Put in a number of days that covers the entire deck.
4) Profit!