Yonosa Wrote:Dude, Ill just pay some chinese student $10 when I get there to read the sentences out

Now don't be so degrading.
...or cheap

Musashi Wrote:

Yonosa Wrote:Dude, Ill just pay some chinese student $10 when I get there to read the sentences out

Now don't be so degrading.
...or cheap

HEY!, I'm not, that's a deal! thats over 65￥uan! For what like an hour of whoever's time, and all they have to do is read one sentence after another, without a single pause or they will be hit with a 2 by 4 with a nail in it, while fanning me as I sip my iced macha drink(NOT THAT HARD). and they get the equivalent of a Western wage! they can seriously eat for a week on that(cheaply and malnutritionally, but it can be done!, I plan to do that exact thing actually!)

Yonosa Wrote:

Musashi Wrote:

Yonosa Wrote:Dude, Ill just pay some chinese student $10 when I get there to read the sentences out

Now don't be so degrading.
...or cheap

HEY!, I'm not, that's a deal! thats over 65￥uan! For what like an hour of whoever's time, and all they have to do is read one sentence after another, without a single pause or they will be hit with a 2 by 4 with a nail in it, while fanning me as I sip my iced macha drink(NOT THAT HARD). and they get the equivalent of a Western wage! they can seriously eat for a week on that(cheaply and malnutritionally, but it can be done!, I plan to do that exact thing actually!)

What?? You can still get RMB 65,- for 10 bucks now? I thought it slipped to just over RMB 50,- or sumting. RMB 65,- for a whole week? Only eating 葱油拌面 everyday maybe haha.
2 chocolate frappuchino's with a shot of hazelnut and it's gone!

Musashi Wrote:

Yonosa Wrote:

Musashi Wrote:Now don't be so degrading.
...or cheap

HEY!, I'm not, that's a deal! thats over 65￥uan! For what like an hour of whoever's time, and all they have to do is read one sentence after another, without a single pause or they will be hit with a 2 by 4 with a nail in it, while fanning me as I sip my iced macha drink(NOT THAT HARD). and they get the equivalent of a Western wage! they can seriously eat for a week on that(cheaply and malnutritionally, but it can be done!, I plan to do that exact thing actually!)

What?? You can still get RMB 65,- for 10 bucks now? I thought it slipped to just over RMB 50,- or sumting. RMB 65,- for a whole week? Only eating 葱油拌面 everyday maybe haha.
2 chocolate frappuchino's with a shot of hazelnut and it's gone!

"10.00 USD = 68.3100 CNY"

That's what you call currency pegging! HEHE Don't mind it one bit

Is anyone having trouble accessing the spreadsheets? I think I may have set them up incorrectly, but need some feedback...

Does anyone have an opinion on this book?
http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Mandarin-Ch...0415700108

I don't own that book but I've looked through it and it seemed pretty good. Chinese: A Comprehensive Grammar by Yip Po-Ching and Don Rimmington seems better, IMO, but I don't own either so take that with a grain of salt.

bflatnine Wrote:I don't own that book but I've looked through it and it seemed pretty good. Chinese: A Comprehensive Grammar by Yip Po-Ching and Don Rimmington seems better, IMO, but I don't own either so take that with a grain of salt.

I have a pdf o A comprehensive grammar, but there is not cohesive order to it, I am thinking of going through a bit of one but not until after I do some of the zhongwen .com trio

Did the Anki deck of ZhongWenRed.com (and Green, Blue) with Audio ever get finished? I am very interested in using such a deck!

I will be posting a finished copy of that deck tonight. So... Lucky you. It starts with Zhongwen Green for the first 15 chapters or so then it switches to zhongwenred all the way to lesson 111, which is where zhongwen red ends. I am just touching up a few things and I will release it. I think almost all the audio is included maybe 99% or sentences include audio. A few don't have it where it wasn't available.
I will release it as an anki deck, using rapidshare or like site.

I haven't seen a better 1+1 deck for starting out in Chinese this one is nearly ideal, I'm about halfway through and it feels like I've barely been working. I also have a deck available of the ESSENTIAL 2700 characters or whatever from Smart.fm that I will be using after I finish up ZWR, In my opinion there is no point in doing all three.

Also, the deck is set up picture(only a few included) and audio on the front, hanzi, english, and pinyin(in white font) on the back, as that is how I have been studying. Edit the template as you'd like of course, but I found that it is EXTREMELY helpful for listening and also everytime I hear or think of a word the hanzi just pop up in my head for it. I initially just tried this method out after reading Khatz blog on it. I don't much prefer it for Japanese as in Japanese listening is much easier and I am simply aiming at high reading comprehension, however for mandarin it is a pretty ideal template, again, whatever suits you.

much thx for the links. the poster above never posted the decks?? but anyways if anyone did make decks from those sites do share. ks

http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?id=4405

it is in there, you might have to switch the format of it to suit you. and there is like one mistake in there. Read through the post and you will get all the info about it.

dbh2ppa Wrote:

mafried Wrote:http://zhongwenred.com/

Has perhaps the equiv. examples of Tae Kim but without the explanation.

That place is awesome! Does anyone know of an easy way to turn those sentences into traditional hanzi? Or a recommendation of a similar site/book using traditional hanzi?

Yes, copy and paste these sentences to CC-CEDICT text annotater
or use the google translator (simplified chinese --> traditional chinese)
I prefer the CC-CEDICT annotator, it's a great tool to read stuff you don't understand (like news paper reports etc.)

bflatnine Wrote:I don't own that book but I've looked through it and it seemed pretty good. Chinese: A Comprehensive Grammar by Yip Po-Ching and Don Rimmington seems better, IMO, but I don't own either so take that with a grain of salt.

I agree. I use the Intermediate edition, it's pretty good. I like the excersises.
There are excerts of these books:

Chinese: an essential grammar Von Po-ching Yip,Don Rimmington

Basic Chinese: A Grammar and Workbook Von Yip Po-Ching,Don Rimmington

Intermediate Chinese: a grammar and workbook Von Po-ching Yip,Don Rimmington,Zhang Xiaoming,Rachel Henson

For german speakers I recommend
Chinesisch fuer Deutsch von Ruth Cremerius
There is also a traditional character edition (Langzeichen)

I found a grammar book for free:
http://www.docin.com/p-97074545.html
But I guess it's not for starting Chinese?

And what's funny...
I also found this:
http://www.docin.com/p-51166854.html
(@﹏@)~

This is pretty fun I found!
Because of the videos!! which are completely transcripted with grammer explenations!

http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/mandarin1/cover