I am studying Heisig's Remembering the Hanzi. Will there be a similar such web site created anytime soon. I would imagine many people would be very interested.


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The Reviewing the Hanzi website was launched end of March, 2011.

IIRC Fabris has mentioned this is on his todo list, albeit not a priority. It's possible to write a greasemonkey script to turn RTK1+3 on this site into RTH. But the easiest solution is to just use Anki. There's a shared deck for RTH-Simplified, IIRC. For traditional characters you may be SOL.

I think most people asking about a RS/TH are interested in the community or even more in the publicly shared stories.

lavallo, I'm in the SF bay area as well (Santa Clara). Where are you at?

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I would have loved to work on that after the recent changes from TEST go in production, but there were also long time needed changes on the Study page. So either I spend a few more months on Study page etc. Or first I contact Heisig and do the RTH site. Maybe I should run a vote, know a good polling site?

The point is, if I did RTH first, many updates would be duplicated between the kanji and hanzi sites, such as Study page improvements. Personally I'd love to get on RTH as soon as possible.

Fabrice: Would it be that difficult to implement RTH? If you don't try to integrate the two together shouldn't it just be a matter of making a copy of the current site on a subdomain (much like you have production and test separate) and feeding it a database file with the rth list in place of the rtk one?

I was under the impression that the new modularity you've been working on would allow that kind of "drop-in" replacement. The RTH could wallow in an older version while you continued work on RTK and then once RTK was ready, just drop the user database into the new framework.

I have no idea how the backend is setup of course though *gets r00t

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@Jarvik7: there is no point of using the old site now, since the refactored site is almost ready, and running on test. It doesn't work like that. The need for the refactored site was that the old code would simply be unmanageable, if I had copied the existing/old site to a chinese version, it would have become a total mess. The refactored site was a NECESSITY to make the chinese version possible. It will be ported, but half the work is finding the data to feed the hanzi database + keywords. Anyways I'll drop an email to Heisig asap and post back.

ファブリス, what about opening up a "Learning Chinese" section of the forum in the meantime? Maybe with "General Discussion", "The Chinese Language", "Group Study", and "Learning Resources" as subforums. This should be very easy to do, and there's no need to delay until "Reviewing the Hanzi" is finished. I feel bad every time I post a Chinese-related thread on this site, but the fact is that there is a large number of dual Japanese/Chinese learners here and you'd be filling a void.

There are other Chinese language forums of course, but my experience has been that they are all filled with trolls, have hostile admins, or are distinctly anti-Heisig, anti-AJATT. RevTK, on the other hand, is an open, welcoming community that has not only tested and accepted new, revolutionary study methods (like AJATT), but has also pioneered some of its own (KO2001, subs2srs). Sure, we have our (sometimes strong) opinions about how Japanese should be studied, but I've been posting and before that lurking here long enough to see that this community knowledge was gathered out of trial and error, a genuine desire to find and catalog the most efficient learning methods, and enough humility to admit that there might be better methods out there than what we're currently using. I greatly admire and respect the other members of this forum for what has been accomplished so far, and it would be truly great if such a resource could be developed for Chinese as well.

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Whew, I should quote your post to describe the the forum somewhere (don't mind?)

I'll look at creating a RTH companion sub forum this w-e. I have an idea of how to move all the chinese topics to a separate RevTH forum whenever the need will arise.

Also I sent an email to Heisig yesterday regarding the creation of RevTH.

(Yes, please, quote and edit it however you like.)

I look forward to using the RTH sub forum, although I probably won't post right away as I only have internet here in Asia for the next few days ファブリス, thank you for all the hard, selfless work you've done for the community.

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I've got the green lights from Mr Heisig and Timothy Richardson More on that later.

Please understand that having two very similar web sites is not as easy as copying over. That's one of the worst things to do in programming, you can find plenty of writing on the subject of "copy and paste programming". Even if you use classes, actions, helpers, database models, view templates, ... you need to be very carefu lwith how you design and organise the code than with one website, .. with two websites bad code is not mess its twice the mess

Fortunately the new site is based on the structure of the Symfony php framework, so I'll most likely have the kanji and hanzi as two "applications" under the same overarching "project", meaning they can share helpers, libraries, even database models.

hooorayy!

Cool to see the hanzi sub-forum is up!

Nice, I'm excited to see that the Hanzi train is rolling. I've been recommending the book (RTH), and this site to a lot of people studying Chinese, who's numbers seem to be greater than the Japanese students I've met. This site just gets better and better.