Sorry if this is an innapropriate topic for these boards...this may end up coming off as just a big whiny rant, but I would like any advice that can be given, provided there is any to be had. ...That made almost no sense. I'll just go ahead and post my thing.
Back when I was little, I had major problems with English. No matter what the teachers or my parents said or did, nothing helped. Until I started reading, and then boom, my vocabulary, grammar...everything excelled far and above my peers. (Although the internet has ruined me, so excuse my crappy writing style) Although as good as I am with English, I could never make heads or tails of what they were talking about when it came to stuff like Noun phrases, the subject, the object, passives, causatives...you know, the academic parts of language. I understand English perfectly well, and short of lawyer contracts or quantum physics explanations I'd be hard pressed to find any English paper I couldn't understand perfectly. But even simple academic concepts like the subject and the object, although I understand the dictionary definition of them, I never could seem to wrap my head around them in practice. Never really thought, "oh, that word is the subject" or whatever while I was reading.
Learning Japanese has been, well, god awful. I'm not in college or anything, but I've been doing self-study for probably about a year and have been enrolled in a Japanese "school" for the last three months; yet I feel like I've made almost no progress whatsoever. I have a minimal vocabulary at best, know maybe a handful of Kanji, and Japanese sentence structure and grammar is totally alien to me - I can't make sense of anything beyond the basic "A wa equals B desu" construction. Which means that Japanese reading practice is near impossible, and when I try to write it (like on Lang-8) I'm basically just guessing.
I've tried Anki, Jpod101 podcasts, Lang-8, Tae Kim's grammar guide, a Japanese grammar dictionary, "Making sense of Japanese" by that one guy, japaneseclass.com, different graded reader sites (which, by the way, aren't "graded" very well), and the old school textbooks. Most stuff involving plain memorization (like Anki) bore me to tears and are very hard to continue, and when I do learn a new word or grammar point, mnemonics or not, it seems to slip out of my memory faster than I can put it in.
I used to do about an hour of Japanese practice a day, switching it up between reading, writing, and listening, but I've been gradually starting to avoid it because I've come to associate it with disappointment and frustration.
I'm getting pretty discouraged, I guess is what I want to say.
So...some questions:
1. I temporarily quit my Japanese class, since it's pretty expensive and winter is coming up, meaning I'll likely miss half my classes anyway. My grandmother (dunno how) managed to find a student at a local college from Japan who would be willing to tutor me 1 on 1. But with my Japanese level as abysmally low as it is, do you think I'd even gain anything from it?
2. It seems I've tried everything, but nothing really seems to be working. Do you think I should just pick one thing and stick with it really hardcore, or try something new? And what would that one thing (or new thing) be?
3. Any other advice of where to go from here would be great. Even though I want to learn this language and I believe I can, I'm still on the verge of throwing in the towel.
If nothing else, thanks for letting me vent. Nobody else I know has ever even attempted to learn a foreign language, so they don't know the struggle and I've got nobody to talk to about it.
Back when I was little, I had major problems with English. No matter what the teachers or my parents said or did, nothing helped. Until I started reading, and then boom, my vocabulary, grammar...everything excelled far and above my peers. (Although the internet has ruined me, so excuse my crappy writing style) Although as good as I am with English, I could never make heads or tails of what they were talking about when it came to stuff like Noun phrases, the subject, the object, passives, causatives...you know, the academic parts of language. I understand English perfectly well, and short of lawyer contracts or quantum physics explanations I'd be hard pressed to find any English paper I couldn't understand perfectly. But even simple academic concepts like the subject and the object, although I understand the dictionary definition of them, I never could seem to wrap my head around them in practice. Never really thought, "oh, that word is the subject" or whatever while I was reading.
Learning Japanese has been, well, god awful. I'm not in college or anything, but I've been doing self-study for probably about a year and have been enrolled in a Japanese "school" for the last three months; yet I feel like I've made almost no progress whatsoever. I have a minimal vocabulary at best, know maybe a handful of Kanji, and Japanese sentence structure and grammar is totally alien to me - I can't make sense of anything beyond the basic "A wa equals B desu" construction. Which means that Japanese reading practice is near impossible, and when I try to write it (like on Lang-8) I'm basically just guessing.
I've tried Anki, Jpod101 podcasts, Lang-8, Tae Kim's grammar guide, a Japanese grammar dictionary, "Making sense of Japanese" by that one guy, japaneseclass.com, different graded reader sites (which, by the way, aren't "graded" very well), and the old school textbooks. Most stuff involving plain memorization (like Anki) bore me to tears and are very hard to continue, and when I do learn a new word or grammar point, mnemonics or not, it seems to slip out of my memory faster than I can put it in.
I used to do about an hour of Japanese practice a day, switching it up between reading, writing, and listening, but I've been gradually starting to avoid it because I've come to associate it with disappointment and frustration.
I'm getting pretty discouraged, I guess is what I want to say.
So...some questions:
1. I temporarily quit my Japanese class, since it's pretty expensive and winter is coming up, meaning I'll likely miss half my classes anyway. My grandmother (dunno how) managed to find a student at a local college from Japan who would be willing to tutor me 1 on 1. But with my Japanese level as abysmally low as it is, do you think I'd even gain anything from it?
2. It seems I've tried everything, but nothing really seems to be working. Do you think I should just pick one thing and stick with it really hardcore, or try something new? And what would that one thing (or new thing) be?
3. Any other advice of where to go from here would be great. Even though I want to learn this language and I believe I can, I'm still on the verge of throwing in the towel.
If nothing else, thanks for letting me vent. Nobody else I know has ever even attempted to learn a foreign language, so they don't know the struggle and I've got nobody to talk to about it.
Edited: 2014-11-08, 10:51 pm



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