Stansfield123 Wrote:

Kuzunoha13 Wrote:351 hours when I finished adding the last few cards of Core 10k. I knew maybe a couple of hundred words before I started...I had also finished RTK up to the half way point, but quit when I realized the kanji I was learning rarely appeared in my Core lists, and I was doing fine without it.

Assuming you continued reviewing, how many hours is it up to now (and how long has it been since you finished adding)?

I think I finished a couple months ago?
Here are some stats I took from the statistics page:
Review count:
Days studied: 347/347 (100%!)
Average/day: 965

Review time:
Total time: 495 hours
Average: 86 min/day
Average answer time: 5.3s (11 cards/min)

Mature Correct: 80.94%

Generally, I have 400-450 cards/day for review, and it takes about 30-40 minutes.
I intended to add new cards...but when I read, although I look up all the words I don't know, I only try to remember the ones I've seen before. I figure eventually I'll start learning from the lists I've made, but I still have like 60-80? years to do it so I'm not in too much of a rush.

Nyanda Wrote:Yes, the audio does get cut off quite a lot when I'm pressing the answer buttons quickly.

Oh, okay, then, if by doing five seconds the audio cuts out, that means it's pretty much impossible to go faster than 6 seconds and let the audio play out (and I do want to do that, I feel that it helps me too much not to).

Add to that the fact that I sometimes look up Kanji I don't recognize, in the middle of my reviews, and I'm probably at my speed limit by averaging 8 seconds.

I think I'll just leave it at that and stop trying to bring it down any more, for now.

[s0apgun]

Excellent data kuzunoha13! Looks pretty similar to mine

@s0apgun @Nyanda @Stansfield123

I took your advice and I'm trying to speed things up a bit. I'm still doing sentences, but I switched to sentence recognition rather then the clozed sentences I was doing. I was liking the clozed sentences because it was giving me production practice, but I was running into too many words that had similar meanings and I'd end up needlessly failing a lot of cards because of it. I like that the sentences are still giving me reading practice and the sentence provides context. I'll still never hit 100 cards per day this way, but it feels like an improvement.

[s0apgun]

The cool thing is that if you're not learning a certain card enough, Anki will fix that for you down the road when it decides to show it to you again. I think keeping the speed up on young cards is important. Don't let Anki bog you down when you could be doing other things in Japanese!

The Core deck seems so important. Those who have done it and those who haven't. I never stuck with it but did try in spurts. I know the first 2k really well although not from doing Core. (I mined my own vocab). Anyway, I suspended the 1st 2k and I'm going through the rest. The deck I'm using has both recognition and production. I'm doing 50 new cards a day but since it does both recognition and production it's kind of like 25 new words a day. Sorta. I've been doing this for a month.

Anyway, just using a calculator I have 6168 unseen cards and at 50/day = 123.36 days.. / 30 = 4.112 months. So 4.1 months to get all the cards 'seen' if I don't miss a day and keep to 50/day. Maybe another month to learn it.

One problem is that I'm giving into the urge to mine my own vocabulary again. Sometimes it's more fun. I've been really good doing the Core deck though for about 6 weeks counting now so I will make myself finish that before doing other stuff. I really think the Core deck is a fantastic base for achieving an advanced level of Japanese.

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I'm experimenting with reading the example sentences out loud every time. It seems helpful - but also seems to double the review time O.o

Core isn't that important ! It's just a convenient set of frequent words from newspapers and books (?) with lovely sentence examples, translations, and audio to go along with it. Its up to you whether you'd like to utilize this premade study resource, if you desire.

It might be preferable to view this project in strides, gauging how much you'd like to learn at the present moment, or daily, perhaps by periodically increasing the new card limit when you feel like learning, or acquiring, a few new cards.

[RawToast]

kraemder Wrote:I'm experimenting with reading the example sentences out loud every time. It seems helpful - but also seems to double the review time O.o

That will help a lot if you've been having trouble with production. I do that for the odd sentence and will attempt to shadow the audio.

My deck for core is almost the same as s0apgun's example, just with the sentence on the front underneath. The sentence can be useful for words like 表 which is either: おもて (surface, exterior, outside) or ひょう (table, chart, list).

I am 75% of the way done with Core 6k with 439 hours studied.

I just finished RTK 2, and I plan on moving onto Core 6k. Has anyone else done the same or something similar? Mostly, I want to know how much crossover there is between the vocabulary learned in RTK 2 and Core 6k.

I didn't do any Core deck when I learned to read. I mainly used vocab cards that sometimes had audio.

I started using a Core deck to learn to write that I ordered by Kanken level and modified to highlight the word's kana in red and include pitch accent. Even though I know the words already, shadowing the audio is really helpful in transitioning from words to chunks when speaking, and my pitch has been improving a lot (though I have received some help from a native in the process). I'm sure the writing is contributing to the former too.

I think it's important to learn to read quickly, since it'll expand your horizons and increase your motivation, but I guess I've found that there's potentially value in Core even for people who can already read fluently, so it may be worth trying to extract as much of that value as you can the first time around, rather than focusing on speeding through reviews.

Hi, I have 20% to go and I have an urge to suspen cards

I always suspend katakana based words but do you think it's a good idea to suspend easy words like. . .

感ずる
高熱
不安定
五十音
読み
半数
目覚める

Do you guys also suspend cards and what are your conditions when suspending them?

Thx,