I recently finished RTK1 and decided to use this site for review. (Nice site BTW.) Now that I've finished the first run-through I have about 400 Kanji in the failed stack. (All of these Kanji's stories I remember, I just had some trouble coming up with them without the Kanji.) Anyway, I'd like to review them again, but when I mark them as "learned," they move into the "One review" stack.

Should I just wait for the cards in the "One review" stack right now to expire, or is there a way to move the Failed cards into the originial stack?

You can review off the red stack if you use:

http://www.kanji.koohii.com/review/revie...ed=1&box=1

As far as I know, you can't get cards back into the blue stack.

Hey, now I don't even have to manually add them back! Thanks a lot.

I wish there was a button for this...

Hmmm...

I'm a little curious, Plarin ... were you using this site while you studied from RTK, or did you come here to start the SRS program after you were already done?

If the latter is the case, I'm just a little curious about what method you were using to review in the actual process of learning the kanji, and how you were measuring your "failures" beforehand.

The only reason I ask is, I've always taken this site for granted, and I couldn't even begin to imagine how I would assess myself without everything it has built in. o_O

Were you using physical flash cards, or some sort of software?

kuroneko Wrote:I wish there was a button for this...

Ditto on that ... a way to instantly move a card to the failed stack would be tremendously helpful, too.

I know that ファブリス changed the failed mode back to the original, but is there some way to provide an alternative way to review my failed stack? I really liked the new way, extra clicks and all. Here's how I made it work for me (and it really did help my retention of failed kanji.)

I bring up the failed kanji list, sort by last test date, go over kanji I failed 2+ days ago (so I have a chance to try to dredge that story up again), and if I can't, I stare it some, go over some stories, rework my own, maybe add another, and then I leave it in the pile for one more day. The problem with the way it's set up now is twofold:

1. The kanji number on the left gives me a big big hint.
2. When I go to check the card and mark it learned, it automatically bounces to the top card in the pile, spoiling my review method.

If I do a lot of eye-averting, it sort of works, but I wonder if there's a way such a failed kanji review could be worked in as an option, leaving folks with either the original way or the 'new' way that got deleted. I know a lot of people didn't like the 'new' method (I did), but I felt it actually made me spend some extra time with my failed kanji, rather than just spamming 'learned.'

[ファブリス]

Is the frame number such a big give away? If it gives you a bit of a hint I don't think it will affect your reviews negatively?

There's certainly room for improvement but I'd prefer to use one good solution with some options, like perhaps a "hide frame number" option, rather than implement two different ways of clearing failed kanji.

rich_f Wrote:When I go to check the card and mark it learned, it automatically bounces to the top card in the pile, spoiling my review method.

Before you click learned, look at the next kanji on the list and write it down. Then click learned and it will bounce to it. Before clicking learned look at the next one. Etc. The only problem is the very first one on the list...

EDIT: ps. great idea of sorting by the last reviewed.

laner36 Wrote:Before you click learned, look at the next kanji on the list and write it down. Then click learned and it will bounce to it. Before clicking learned look at the next one. Etc. The only problem is the very first one on the list...

not if you use the menu bar at the top "home, learn more... etc" to get to the study section

by the way, I mainly use the same method

dukelexon Wrote:Hmmm...

I'm a little curious, Plarin ... were you using this site while you studied from RTK, or did you come here to start the SRS program after you were already done?

If the latter is the case, I'm just a little curious about what method you were using to review in the actual process of learning the kanji, and how you were measuring your "failures" beforehand.

The only reason I ask is, I've always taken this site for granted, and I couldn't even begin to imagine how I would assess myself without everything it has built in. o_O

Were you using physical flash cards, or some sort of software?

Er, I can't really remember how I reviewed the first 800 or so, it was a while ago.

But for the rest of the book, I pretty much did a chapter straight through, and if it was convenient to use a pencil and paper, I wrote them down as I went along. Then, a few days after finishing each chapter, I'd go through the chapter again and try to write or just remember the Kanji from the keywords. Every now and then I'd reread a chapter, maybe once or twice total.

When I was done with the book, I quizzed myself using the index. If in addition to not being able to write the character, I forgot the story as well, I usually wrote a little note in the book by the keyword.

I don't think it's the most efficient way to do it, but I found it more convenient and I don't really enjoy reviewing with the computer. Also, I think I spent a bit too much time on my stories, so that made them easier to remember. Right now, I'm going through RTK3 at at least twice the rate... but I still don't plan on using the website until I'm about 500 characters in.

Ah, the thing with the numbers is simple. If I see the number is between 950 and 1010 or so, I know it's a Mr.T (person) character. I guess it's because I spent a lot of time working on that particular section a few months back. Other numbers aren't so much of a big hint, but that depends on how many times I review them, I guess.

Another thing I like to do every now and then is go to the master list of all learned kanji, and sort by most frequent number of fails, and double-check those kanji, just to keep the at the forefront of my brain. I also sort by fewest number of correct answers, too.