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Toktogi: Korean version of Rikaichan/Rikaikun

#1
Hey everyone,

When I was learning Japanese, this site and RTK, Anki, and Rikaichan(and equivalents) were a huge help. For Korean, I don't need to memorize 2000 characters and Anki works just fine, so the only thing that I couldn't find was a good version of Rikaichan for Korean. I was looking for a fun programming project as well, so I made it myself.

Toktogi: Korean-English Popup Dictionary

It's very much a work in progress so I'm always looking for feedback and suggestions. It's based on an Open Source dictionary by Joe Spiegle (who ran ezcorean.com). I'm also looking for other open source dictionaries to include if you guys can find any, especially Korean-Japanese and Korean-Korean. I haven't had any luck so far.

Anyways, Give it a shot and let me know what you think.
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#2
Thanks. There's also something like this for chrome. I'm not sure how good it is. I remember installing it and using it a little and then realized how its only good for nouns and whatnot since the word changes so much with the conjugation ( I have to still lok up some things manually). Nonetheless I'm grateful for any automatic lookups that are available. Then I lost interest reading the Internet in Korean and that was that . Usually when I find an article that I want to read there's always a word that's not in the dictionary that I have to google and or ask to get clarity because its slang.
Edited: 2014-07-07, 8:28 pm
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#3
Yeah there are always going to be words that aren't in the dictionary. I mostly solved the verb conjugations issues with this one by combining a nice verb conjugator script(http://dongsa.net/) with the dictionary's plain forms of verbs. Seems to work pretty well.

The plan is to eventually allow people to easily contribute back to the dictionary to improve it. Once that happens then hopefully we can make this dictionary as good as EDICT is for Japanese. Still a long ways to go with the extension but I think it's definitely usable.

Toktogi works on both Chrome and Firefox btw.
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http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...#pid176387
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#5
I'm trying out Korean. In part to get away from kanji. I'm only a few days into it so I am super ignorant but I found your dictionary and it looks really nice. Is there a function to copy vocabulary like in rikai-sama? I'd love to save vocabulary for studying on flashcards.
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#6
Soon hopefully. Being able to add words to a vocab list that can be exported to a csv file is one of the next features I want to implement.
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#7
Sweet. Here's another wish list that might not be as easy to implement. Is it possible to add audio just like rikai-sama? I was just looking at koreanclass101.com and they have a free dictionary with lots of audio.. http://www.koreanclass101.com/korean-dictionary/. I think rikai-sama uses japanesepod101.com for its audio. But not sure.
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#8
kraemder Wrote:Sweet. Here's another wish list that might not be as easy to implement. Is it possible to add audio just like rikai-sama? I was just looking at koreanclass101.com and they have a free dictionary with lots of audio.. http://www.koreanclass101.com/korean-dictionary/. I think rikai-sama uses japanesepod101.com for its audio. But not sure.
I'm trying to not use anything that could have copyright issues, but I'll look into it and see if they will let me use their audio in toktogi for free. Probably with a "audio provided by koreanclass101.com" or something. Thanks for the suggestion!
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#9
I just installed and tried this a little. I'm very happy that something like it exists, and it looks very promising. Detailed impressions:

- It would be useful to see what conjugated form a verb is in when you hover over it (Rikaichan does this)
- Participles are not recognized (만든, 없는, 있을...), although basic conjugations work. The verb conjugating script is incomplete in this regard. I posted on its git.
- The honorific isn't recognized in verbs (check http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Korean_verbs for an impression of how much works)
- Most if not all grammatical particles aren't recognized in verbs (-나요, -ㅆ는데...)
- Many grammatical particles by themselves don't seem to have dictionary entries (는, 도, 면서, 음...) (maybe you could use these? http://www.koreangrammaticalforms.com/ )
- Hovering doesn't work in text boxes (useful when you want to look something up offline, for example)

It seems that the biggest issue at the moment is parsing the input. I don't know how Rikaichan does it, but generating all possible conjugations from the dictionary form seems like a reasonable approach. Seems like an interesting challenge for sure.

I already tweeted this to you, but I'd love to see a digital currencey donation address for this project. It's perfect for microdonations and I'd already like to shoot you some Dogecoin for this prototype Smile

Cheers!
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#10
Thanks for making this. I've been trying it out and find it quite helpful. As someone else suggested, it'd be awesome to have a vocabulary card function available, if you haven't made one available already. Beyond that, it would just be good to have more detail to the entries (possibly by referencing another dictionary) as some of the definitions are incorrect or otherwise wanting in some way--and texture always helps.

Overall, though, I'm just happy to see something like this is out there and will recommend it to my friends studying Korean. And I'd also be willing to donate if you wanted to set something like what johndoge suggested up.
Edited: 2014-09-16, 9:01 pm
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