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Kanji → Kana readings deck

#1
I made a readings deck from the words and readings marked as "common" in JMdict (= that dictionary by Jim Breen).

Link to Anki deck (~16k notes)

It just has the kanji on the front and the reading(s) at the back; no meanings or anything. All-kana words are excluded, for obvious reasons. (But apparently words like 「CDプレイヤー」have managed to sneak it. :/)

Hope someone finds this useful.
Edited: 2014-05-01, 10:04 am
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#2
anubhav Wrote:(But apparently words like 「CDプレイヤー」have managed to sneak it. :/)
A conglomerated, mulatto, MONGREL class of words.
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#3
Edit:
Never mind, I think I understand what you want to achieve.

The following is just for the record (I don't think deleting that post is the best thing to do, so let's just leave it here).

Inny Jan Wrote:The reasons to exclude kana words are not obvious to me at all.

Here are some examples:
- do you know that you pronounce:
ぜント (LHLL)
ーツ (HLL)
ックス (HLLL)

- how do you know what’s:
じっと
やっと
するする
すする
やはり
Edited: 2014-05-01, 8:54 pm
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Inny Jan Wrote:The reasons to exclude kana words are not obvious to me at all.
Well if the deck is nothing but Front: Kanji, Back: Kana it would be pretty easy if the front were also Kana..
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#5
You still could test yourself on a pitch accent but that would be beyond his objective anyway.
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#6
Inny Jan Wrote:You still could test yourself on a pitch accent but that would be beyond his objective anyway.
Yeah, pitch accent belongs to a vocab deck IMO.

You can usually (kinda sorta) guess at the reading of an unfamiliar word just from the kanji. But AFAIK the kanji don't carry hints about the accent; you need to already know the word and its pitch accent.

(Or don't you? I could be wrong about this.)

This is why I think it's best to learn the pitch accent when you learn the word, rather than trying to figure it out from the kanji.

But anyway, I'm not aware of any list of Japanese words with their pitch accents, so the question is moot. I couldn't add pitch accent to this deck (or any other deck) even if I wanted to.
Edited: 2014-05-01, 11:46 pm
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#7
This looks awesome, thank you. Has anyone had any success with long-term studying using this sort of card? Logically make sense that you should get better at guessing readings by drilling readings only. I remember dabbling with this sort of idea of bit ago, but ultimately abandoned because it felt like I wasn't really learning anything. That feeling often comes, so it's not to say this isn't a really good idea.
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kazuki Wrote:This looks awesome, thank you. Has anyone had any success with long-term studying using this sort of card?
I kinda do this but I also have definitions on the back, I just don't test myself on them. The definitions help when I completely fail to recognize a word.
Quote:I remember dabbling with this sort of idea of bit ago, but ultimately abandoned because it felt like I wasn't really learning anything.
I just add any word I encounter that I can't read... not really learning anything (that's the job of native materials + dictionary), just not forgetting.
Edited: 2014-05-02, 11:00 am
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anubhav Wrote:You can usually (kinda sorta) guess at the reading of an unfamiliar word just from the kanji. But AFAIK the kanji don't carry hints about the accent; you need to already know the word and its pitch accent.

(Or don't you? I could be wrong about this.)
I may be wrong but I think the character with the long vowel carries the emphasis in most circumstances. Now what you do when they're all long or none of them are, I dunno..
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#10
There's no emphasis in pitch accent.
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kazuki Wrote:This looks awesome, thank you. Has anyone had any success with long-term studying using this sort of card? Logically make sense that you should get better at guessing readings by drilling readings only. I remember dabbling with this sort of idea of bit ago, but ultimately abandoned because it felt like I wasn't really learning anything. That feeling often comes, so it's not to say this isn't a really good idea.
If you know what the words mean (because you already speak Japanese), then you're learning something, but I doubt it's more than what you'd learn by simply reading with the help of Rikaisama, or partial furigana, for instance.

If you don't know what the words mean, then drilling their readings is just silly.
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#12
Vempele Wrote:There's no emphasis in pitch accent.
potato potatoe you know what I meant
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