Notice: Survey is over now! Thank you to those who participated!

The link to my full report can be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-uo4jA...sp=sharing

If you would like to see how you did on your transcript, scroll down to the bottom to find yours.

If you just want to see a basic chart, you can go here: http://petitelumi.blogspot.com/2014/05/s...ition.html

I recently added an extra value to my chart as well. Here is the new chart with that value: http://petitelumi.blogspot.com/2014/05/s...value.html

This survey is not conclusive, only indicative.

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I'm currently doing research on how different study methods affect listening skills as part of my independent study on creating a method to implement immersion and native resources into the classroom.

I'm not sure if it's appropriate to post about my survey here, but I thought I could get some good variety by posting on the RtK forums, since people use a variety of methods here.

(Notice: If you don't feel like attempting the transcript in the survey, then do not answer this survey, it won't help my research and your contribution will be a waste.)

Here's the link to my survey: [[link not avaliable]]

I'm looking for all levels to take my survey, whether you've just started or have been learning for many years.

Also, to open it up for discussion, since this is a forum, what kind of methods do you use to improve your listening? I'm interested in hearing what people are doing!

Just a friendly hint, but you might get more respondents by posting a full link to your survey rather than using one of those URL shorteners, as who knows where that might end up, or what might be waiting to infest my PC when I get there.

I'm sure your link will be fine, but this is just something I've picked from other forums I post/lurk on.

Thank you! That's a really good point. I just copy and pasted the link the survey builder gave me. Changed it to the full link.

Just did the survey but found some of the questions a bit unclear.

E.g. 'when did you start learning Japanese' - that's easy, can given the exact day.

'Have you studied on and off since then?' - err, no, because I've never been 'off'.

'How long have you consistently studied?' - well, since the start. Had to put 1 year.

'How often do you engage with native Japanese?' - nothing between 'several times a week' and 'a few hours a day' (I forget the exact wording).

anotherjohn - Thanks for your feedback on the wording in my questions. I can't change the way I worded it once I've started it as it'd affect the survey. I think probably the most confusing question I asked was "Have you studied on and off since then?"

I also can't provide any insight into what I meant by each question until after I'm done collecting responses. I don't want to influence anyone's answers. It'd be the same as going back into the survey and changing the questions.

But I will keep your feedback in mind if I create any future surveys.

Hi, for the anki usage, I use it regularly, but but that doesn't mean I haven't neglected and ultimately abandoned decks and anki for a number of months at a time.

I've never transcribed anything before, that was fun. I didn't expect such an involved survey, I suppose I can count it as studying?

I've gotten a lot more responses since posting my survey here! Thank you everyone! The survey closes this weekend so there's one more day left to take it.

I've also gotten so much more variety since posting about my survey here. The RTK forums have brought a lot of diversity to my results.

Chronopolis - Thanks for commenting further. I would say more but I'll wait until the survey is closed.

Afterglowefx - Yup! It counts as studying! I'll post the original transcript (corrected by my husband, a native speaker) after the survey is closed so you can see how you did.

My reading ability is "fluent" according to the Japanese level up test but my listening ability (and writing and speaking) are nowhere even close so I didn't know what to choose.

Anki and subs2srs has been huge to help my listening.
Other than that just watching video with subtitles (either English or Japanese) and constantly pausing after each sentence or 2

kanon - That's totally understandable and I think a lot can relate to that. It's hard to know how to rate ourselves. A lot of people are more skilled in some areas than others. Thanks for the feedback.

juniperpansy - Thanks for the feedback! I've heard great things about subs2srs. A great way to incorporate listening into using an SRS.

The survey is actually closing tomorrow so it's still open for a little while! I didn't get the chance to work on the report today so I've kept the survey open for any last minute results.

I am working on my report now and my survey has been closed.

Here is the original transcript in case you were interested in comparing your own or studying from it:

生まれた時から向かい同士
同じもち屋の息子と娘
僕はこのおさななじみの女の子に
恋を…

めっ…ちゃ見てるね！
たまこのこと

でも、見てるだけだね

ハァー！？そんなに見てねぇし

それに俺ちゃんとたまこに言うから

たまこ…
俺さ、東京の大学に行くんだ
だからその前に自分の気持ちを…

俺めちゃくちゃたまこが好きだ！

上手に受け止められなくて
バトンとそれから…

いろんなことが変わっていくんだなって思うよ

どうしたらいいのかな

もち蔵ー！！

(Note: It can be debated whether は comes after たまこ during the confession scene. It sounds like は, though it doesn't make sense in context. It's possible the clip was cut, or the way もち蔵 is breathing just sounds like は)

The transcript, originally written by me, was corrected by my husband, who's a native Japanese speaker.

Thank you to those who participated in my study! It really helps!

The link to my full report can be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-uo4jA...sp=sharing

If you would like to see how you did on your transcript, scroll down to the bottom to find yours.

If you just want to see a basic chart, you can go here: http://petitelumi.blogspot.com/2014/05/s...ition.html

This survey is not conclusive, only indicative. I hope it leads some to finding insights from others studying methods. More importantly, I hope it can show the importance of studying outside of the classroom, whether it's using an SRS, immersion, extensive reading, etc. It all contributes to improving one's Japanese.

One thing I noticed is that those who read a lot did in fact have better transcribing skills because they knew how to "spell" in Japanese. So even if you feel like your reading is better, your reading skills do play a part.

Thank you to those who participated in my survey!

Ok shouldn't have done this on an iPad. I accidentally made a bunch of omissions and substitutions that I clearly heard because it was hard to verify when you can't look at what you are typing while hearing the youtube video (in safari video pauses when you switch tabs), making #32 look really bad

Well, that was fascinating to read. By the way, does anyone know what '向かい同士" meant in trailer?

向かい (お向かい（さん）、etc.) is a neighbour who lives across the street from you (rather than next door, which would be お隣（さん）).

Looks like I did well. Hurray.

I think the people who read often would do even better if the dialogue was a little more complex, just because of the greater vocabulary.

kanon Wrote:Ok shouldn't have done this on an iPad. I accidentally made a bunch of omissions and substitutions that I clearly heard because it was hard to verify when you can't look at what you are typing while hearing the youtube video (in safari video pauses when you switch tabs), making #32 look really bad

Don't let it worry you too much. It's just one survey and you had technical problems. You know where your Japanese is at (^_^) Take confidence

Thanks for letting me know about your technical difficulties too.

apirx Wrote:Looks like I did well. Hurray.

I think the people who read often would do even better if the dialogue was a little more complex, just because of the greater vocabulary.

It'd certainly be interesting to see a similar survey done for a more difficult piece!

Also, in hindsight, I think I'd add questions about reading too. I just didn't think of it, as this tests listening. But thankfully some of the insights from those who read a lot cued me into that.

I chose an easier piece so that all learners could attempt it, even beginners. If it were too difficult, some people might be too intimidated.

Chronopolis Wrote:Well, that was fascinating to read. By the way, does anyone know what '向かい同士" meant in trailer?

向かい同士 is referring to the two 餅屋 facing each other on the same street.

同士 means, "互いにある共通の関係にある人。" But in this case it isn't referring to 人 but instead the shops. My husband explains it like the word, "each other". 向かう means "to face".

You can also say 隣同士. My husband said you can also use the word to mean a mutual factor, such as 日本人同士 (ex from google: 海外での日本人同士の付き合いについてアメリカ在住です。)

Here's another sentence I found on google with the word in it: "なんかさ、向かい同士で座ってるから話しかけてるのに全然反応ないんだよね まるで空気みたい"

In this case it's being used to talk about the seating arrangement, in which the seats are facing each other.

Thanks for going so far to answer the question. I didn't expect such a thorough answer!

I just get a page that says survey not available when I click the OP link.

It's over Tashippy.

I'll edit the link out of the main post and put a notice that the survey has ended to prevent further confusion.

Thanks though tashippy for wanting to check it out!

Chronopolis - No problem!

I'm actually still working on analyzing the results.

#28 was interesting because even though he got a low accuracy, he picked up a lot of words, contradicting my description for the orange tier. So I'm adding another value for the amount of correct words picked up (instead of sounds) to see how that figures in.