vix86 Wrote:qwertyytrewq Wrote:Unlike officially published comics or movies or any media that targets the mainstream audience, hentai authors are creatively beholden to no-one.
I can assure you that professional manga-ka are beholden to people. Those people are the serialized manga publishers and their fan base. Most serialized magazines have a "genre" type that the manga-ka have to follow if they want to get published. Maybe its "there has to be a 'trap' character(s) in your stories" or "your characters have to have giant tits" or "futanari" or "young girls/loli." Sure the artists can change their creations to fit other standards and still get published but many artists don't, they get really good at one area and thats where they tend to stick. (Remember many manga-ka are toeing the 'starving artist' line very close sometimes.)
The other force that keeps their creativity in check is their need for a fan base. If they change up their works to much, they risk losing those people that like their work and buy the tankoban, which is where they make a lot of their royalties.
Doujin are probably the exception to all of this as they are often freeform and not bound, but they do still need to think about what their fans like/want. But you see a lot more experimentation in doujin than in the professional world. That said, many professional manga-ka are also doujin artsits.
I agree with this. Just as most serialized manga are too bland for me, most H-manga are as well; vanilla and rape stories (both usually with big tits) are probably the two most common genres of the medium (or sub-genres of the genre?); Touhou H-doujinshi come in as a close third.
However, just like other manga and doujinshi, there's just so much of it that there's still plenty of creative stuff available, even among the things that get (fan) translated.
Saying that though, there are some pretty good things that get multiple volumes with decent/good stories. Of course, they usually have some tropes to pull a bigger audience.
But yeah, most of the exciting stuff is in doujin self-publications, where the artists barely turn a profit, if at all.
In any case, the OP asked for vanilla porn, so they'll be set. It's everywhere and usually extremely formulaic, but at least that makes it good learning material.
It seems like a lot of artists that want to be out there just go as far out as possible, like Horihone Saizou. And the Jingai Shunman series took the monster girl craze to a whole new level (Highly recommended if you enjoy that kind of thing; the stories in this series are great, but a lot of people will be turned off by the slightly more realistic art). Like I said above though, even though they are out there, they are still 'grounded' by a few elements that make the content familiar enough for the target audience to check it out. By the way, don't look this up at work... or if you're easily disgusted by anything other than vanilla.
As a side note, I'm really surprised at the lack of 獣耳 in hentai, considering its prevalence in regular manga.
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Rael89 Wrote:Is it against the rules to post links to this kind of learning material? Cuz I got some "resources" to share with OP but I don't wanna get banned for it.
I didn't see anything specifically about pornographic material, but links to copyright infringing material are forbidden, and I can't think of many links you could provide that wouldn't be so.
Don't take my word for it though, I'm not an mod or admin; take a look at the 'Rules' tab at the top of the page (including the page linked towards the bottom of that page) or ask a mod (or wait for one to answer your question here).
I imagine this isn't normally an issue that would have to be addressed, so it's possible that it's not mentioned in the rules for that reason.
Edited: 2014-04-19, 10:31 pm
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