Hi! Starting from this deck:

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/2654705267

and with these two lists:

http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...8#pid80718 (Nukemarine's RevTK Lite list)

http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...#pid120086 (KO1 list)

I've modified the aforementioned deck with tags for revtk lite kanji and primitives, and for ko1 (which I've called revtk_ultralite) kanji and primitives.

I've two questions:

1) some kanji in KO1 list aren't in RevTK Lite; Do you think it is better to modify the original RevTK Lite list to include those kanji, so KO1 will become a perfect subset of RevTK (rtk_lite contains rtk_ultralite)? I think it is the more logical thing to do; or in alternative to remove those kanji from KO1 list? Those kanji are:

142源-222株-375企-380証-498脱-632憶-665提-863功-1045施-1435酔-1536請-1881益-2005態 (plus four or five primitives, I don't remember).

2) I think the deck I'm using is pre-6th edition, and also the two lists I've used to find which kanji to tag, but I'm not sure; how can I verify this? I wouldn't run into incompatibilities

For revtk lite I've used the list here

http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...8#pid80718

while the KO1 list is taken from here (it contains also primitives, but it's not in numerical order):

http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...#pid120226

Can someone kindly confirm those numbers are compatible with the deck I've linked in the beginning of this post?

Also I wanna share this deck, so one can study kanji in steps like:

a) first 550 kanji tagged as rtk_ultralite (KO1) plus 100 kanji not in the list but necessary as they act as primitives;

b) pause rtk and go straight into beginner books like Genki I-II;

c) 1115 kanji tagged as rtk_lite (minus those already studied in rtk_ultralite list) plus primitives for them;

d) pause rtk another time and go with intermediate books;

e) finish rtk1 and maybe start rtk3;

(yes, I already know some of you think it is better to do rtk1 start to finish and then move to the next target )

So you understand why I'm concerned with the fact that rtk_ultralite must be a prefect subset of rtk_lite... I rely on you!

Thank you very much!

EDIT

Here is the deck:

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/2070526342

EDIT2

Deck with tags for KO2k1 and primitives needed for eagh KO group:

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/130668037

How have you chosen the ultra-lite list? Are they the most common 550 Kanji?

Stansfield123 Wrote:How have you chosen the ultra-lite list? Are they the most common 550 Kanji?

Never mind, I just conquered my aversion to the written word and read your post for the answer to this one

Stansfield123 Wrote:How have you chosen the ultra-lite list? Are they the most common 550 Kanji?

I read somewere in this forum that the kanji from Kanji Odyssey level 1 are the 550 most common kanji, and I think nukemarine calls them "rtk ultralite" in a post of himself, while the 1100 circa in the "rtk lite" list correspond to the jlpt2 kanji list.
So I understand why the latter doesn't contains all the kanji of the former list.

In fact I'm thinking to remove those tags and subdivide the deck according to the KO subdivision. So that KO2 contains all KO1 and so on. I know there are other decks with the tags for Kanji Odyssey, but here I'm going to add also the kanji not in the list, but which act like primitives/pieces to form those kanji. So one can still study with the RtK method, but instead of doing 2000 kanji start to finish, one can study the first 500 c.ca which are the most common, then focus in vocabulary/grammar and so on...

The RTK Lite and Ultralite were discussed prior to KO2k1 being known on the forums. It came about with a problem others and I saw about RTK in that learning 2041 kanji was a steep upfront investment for learners. When I asked about it, I just suggested using JLPT 4, 3 and 2 Kanji and learn those in Heisig's order for a lite list.

After KO2k1 came about, it soon became apparent (to me at least) that that was a much superior list to create smaller groups of kanji. Just to clarify, when I talk about RTK Ultralite I mean the first 555 kanji from KO2k1 list. RTK Lite is the 1110 kanji from KO2k1. Both lists of kanji would be learned in RTK order.

Nukemarine Wrote:The RTK Lite and Ultralite were discussed prior to KO2k1 being known on the forums. It came about with a problem others and I saw about RTK in that learning 2041 kanji was a steep upfront investment for learners. When I asked about it, I just suggested using JLPT 4, 3 and 2 Kanji and learn those in Heisig's order for a lite list.

After KO2k1 came about, it soon became apparent (to me at least) that that was a much superior list to create smaller groups of kanji. Just to clarify, when I talk about RTK Ultralite I mean the first 555 kanji from KO2k1 list. RTK Lite is the 1110 kanji from KO2k1. Both lists of kanji would be learned in RTK order.

Nukemarine, thank you for your answer!

Here:

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/130668037

Now the tags follow the KO2k1 grouping, furthermore for every group there are also the kanji not in the group himself but needed as primitives/building blocks.

For example, for the first 550 kanji tagged as "ko1" there is a group tagged as "ko1p" which contains the kanji needed as primitives for the "ko1" group. So one can learn those 550 kanji first, but in RtK order and following the RtK method