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How should an intermediate learner start listening practice?

#51
Shadowing is a technique where you repeat the audio at the same time as you are listening to it. No pause, no thinking of grammar, just mechanical echoing.

You will find more on shadowing there:
http://learnanylanguage.wikia.com/wiki/Shadowing
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#52
Inny Jan Wrote:Shadowing is a technique where you repeat the audio at the same time as you are listening to it. No pause, no thinking of grammar, just mechanical echoing.

You will find more on shadowing there:
http://learnanylanguage.wikia.com/wiki/Shadowing
Thank you very much for that info! The introduction to the book wasn't very clear on it. I will change my method and try it out. I was just repeating the audio after the sentence wss spoken.
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#53
I remember looking through those books briefly in a bookstore one time... I thought in the introduction it explained fairly clearly how to do it? I seem to remember there was a suggested order/process to work through. Like just listening first, then listen and repeat in between, and then finally moving on to "shadowing" by repeating at the same time as the audio itself, trying to match/mimic the intonation/rhythm etc.

It was a couple of years ago so my memory isn't super fresh... :/
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#54
SammyB Wrote:I remember looking through those books briefly in a bookstore one time... I thought in the introduction it explained fairly clearly how to do it? I seem to remember there was a suggested order/process to work through. Like just listening first, then listen and repeat in between, and then finally moving on to "shadowing" by repeating at the same time as the audio itself, trying to match/mimic the intonation/rhythm etc.

It was a couple of years ago so my memory isn't super fresh... :/
It goes into it, but for some reason I didn't catch that you are supposed to repeat it immediately. Maybe I had a brain cramp or something :>
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#55
Random blurb about op.

I'm reading a book for a class and have to write a report..
Information is learnt and follows a cycle that integrates all parts of the brain.
Sensory -> Temporal -> Frontal -> Motor
Experience -> Recall (factual)-> Understanding (logic, reason, association)-> Active Testing (written or spoken) -> Experience
Writing notes in your own words uses all four processes.

tldr; balanced learning
(not as relevant to language learning through pattern recognition, but applicable to learning individual words/facts and using them in ideas or actions)
Edited: 2013-11-09, 6:30 pm
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#56
PotbellyPig Wrote:I look forward to getting any advice on my peculiar situation.
You've gotten a lot of advice already, but I would recommend a mix of easy and hard materials. You already have the vocabulary so you should occasionally be able to make big jumps in content as your listening improves.

PotbellyPig Wrote:I was thinking of using sub2srs to create an anki deck of an anime episode I like and start from there. If I do this, how long do you study an episode deck? Do you do it until you really get comfortable with the listenng in that episode and then drop the deck and then create a deck with another episode? Or do you keep reviewing it forever and just add episodes?
I add episodes on a regular basis and use the morph plugin to sort them into one big deck with tags for each episode. Basically whenever I get bored with the cards that are currently appearing I just add a new episode for variety. The number of truly difficult cards in a subs2srs deck is really low and a small portion of the difficulty comes when you get this tiny slice of a long monologue and can't immediately recall the context. Easy cards get blown into outer space (long intervals) so fast I don't even notice. If the card is actually trivial then I just delete it completely. (You really don't need 100 cards that are all おはようございます)

Also, since this thread as turned to shadowing, I tend to shadow my subs2srs deck as well especially if it's something I'd like to be able to say myself.
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