Well, in my city doesn't have a japanese course, so i study via internet, i want to find some sites with intermediate lessions, with something like a conversation, the translation of it and some gramatical hints, if you have some site, please talk here, thanks

I always have to recommend the method used at http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com
As for exactly what you are looking for, I'm not sure.

I would also heartily recommend alljapaneseallthetime for self study.

But if you're looking for something a little more guided and a little less life-consuming (literally) the lessons over at japanese pod 101 seem to be pretty popular.

http://www.japanesepod101.com/

Good Luck!

I don't know sites with actual courses, but try looking for JLPT materials. The Essential Resources sticky has some(check pg2 too). Basically study vocab and grammar. It's important to read/listen to stuff too.

http://www.mangolanguages.com/ has a kind of speaking course for japanese, for free. It has a hundred lessons so you can just skip to the intermediate levels. It's quite like Pimsleur in it's repetition scheme.

phauna Wrote:http://www.mangolanguages.com/ has a kind of speaking course for japanese, for free. It has a hundred lessons so you can just skip to the intermediate levels. It's quite like Pimsleur in it's repetition scheme.

I just checked out the first lesson (the only one you can access without registering) and the male voice seems very strange. Maybe it's just the compression but his pitch seems off. The female voice sounds fine.

You have to pay a monthly subscription for lessons 50+ btw. The lessons seem very short so while I can't see how hard level 100 is without paying, I'd bet it's probably still pretty basic level.

Intermediate LESSON material is virtually non existent on the internet. Two of the previous posts just said either reference material (JLPT) or a study method (AJATT) not lessons, and the remaining one - jpod101 - I found the host far too irritating to even sit through one episode, but it does seem to offer at least some intermediate material. You pretty much have to become self sufficient and learn stuff as you encounter it. There aren't even any good advanced textbooks. "Authentic Japanese: Progressing from Intermediate to Advanced" is what I used, but it's really just a reader with a very brief grammar reference and some questions.

My university experience at the intermediate level a few years back was similar. We used Introduction to Intermediate Japanese: An Integrated Course and Intermediate Japanese: An Integrated Course, both by Bonjinsha, and both were essentially readers-- they're collections of stuff from the Nihongo Journal in the late 80s/early 90s. (Which I will ruthlessly sentence mine when I get my JP levels back.) One nice feature they had-- a comprehensive index by word so you could find a word, and where/how it was used in the text. Not sure I'd spend money on those books now, though. I'd probably just check out the actual Nihongo Journal first. These 2 books just sort of piled a crapton of kanji compounds together and threw them at you, and expected you to somehow remember them from one week to the next. That part never really worked for me-- it was kanji overkill.

If you have a good university library close by, you might consider raiding it for books. You might have better luck.

What would qualify as "Intermediate" by the way? If I put all 2000 sentencs from the "Kanji in Context" workbooks into Anki (my current plan), would that qualify?

Guess my point is, before asking for intermediate lesson locations, maybe we need to find out what counts as intermediate. I will really be interested as in 3 months I should be up to that level.

Current study path: beginner - RTK1, UBJG. Intermediate - KIC. Advanced - T&D subs.

I've never used Kanji in Context before so I can't answer that. In my opinion intermediate means "able to hold down a casual conversation with only occasional inability to express what you're trying to say. Advanced would mean approaching native-level ability. It's really subjective though.

I wouldn't say kanji in context's grammar was near intermediate, but everyone's got their own idea of what intermediate entails.

EDIT: Wot he sed.

Another idea is "Englishpod101", which has the host speaking Japanese, explaining how english works. It's more intermediate because of the vast quantity of Japanese, but the subject matter is familiar so, that makes it easier.

I'm thinking this is going to be a major problem for most of us then. There's intermediate listening, reading, and writing.

For the writing (well, penmenship), we should all be good after RTK. Heck, we should be covered up to the advanced levels truth be told.

For the listening, we have the tools to build it: podcasts, music, downloads and imports. However, without a vocabulary and grammar base it will be difficult to advance in this area. Meaning the most important area of intemediate studies....

The reading. Yes, I offered up Kanji in Context. I reasoned that completing a book like that (or 2001 Kanji Odyssey to a lesser extent) compounded by either RTK2 and/or kanji chains via Trinity, gives you that next step to learn by reading. I know there'll be little picked up with grammar but the vocabulary and kanji context gained will be outstanding. Guess the question then will be what would be a good book to use for Intermediate grammar studies.

Again, I'm just throwing stuff out there. I don't actually know. What I do want is to have a definite plan for when I get to that intermediate area. It took me SIX months of random Japanese studies (Rosetta, Japanese for Busy People, RTK using flash cards, walking around Yokosuka, etc.) before I found Reviewing the Kanji and AJATT which help solidify a stable study path.

Since there's no online lessons...I'll just give my suggestions. I don't have tips for speaking since reading is my goal.
1. Borrow some basic courses and find all the things you're missing... each course covers things a little differently. I think vocab is the thing you'd mainly be looking for. There were lots of words in Basic Kanji vol.2 that I didn't know!
2. Level up your grammar... if you're trying to read/listen to something, you can always look up the words you don't know. It's not so easy to look up grammar(well, I don't know how ^^')
3. Watch a lot of anime/drama/something. I pick up slang(informal speech, contractions) best from watching anime, I don't know if there's even a book that teaches this. Novels use slang in dialogue, but the only reason I think I understand it is because I've watched a lot of anime.
4. Find stuff to read. Look up a study the words you don't know. I mostly read fiction, since that's where my interest lies. There's tons of reading resources online, so find something you can handle and have fun ^_^