No just 2 hours or so a day for 40 days...

My visual memory is better than my ability to memorize thousands of weird stories.

Crawdaddycon Wrote:

pauro02 Wrote:

Crawdaddycon Wrote:Definitely. It was something I wanted to do(I value challenges) and my dad laughed at me when I said I was going to try and do it in 4 weeks.

On an unrelated note, this kind of bet is certainly not the first I have had with my dad. The gas card mentioned in the original post was actually won by dropping 50 pounds in 5 months on a similar bet. 260-->210. (I'm 6'3 so I wasn't obese, just overweight) Now I'm ~10% body fat and I have unlimited gas, much to his distaste.

About this SRS method... The Anki software I am using, because I lack the great organizational skills that a few users are discussing, wants me to review the kanji that I know 4 days from now which isn't the SRS method. Is there a way to tweak the settings to get it to follow those guidelines?

Don't think to much of the study method, but rather your habits... Try to figure out first of what is your habit in studying, of what would gonna make you retain stuffs .. It's useless to have a very thorough study method when your body psychologically will not consider it ... xD I can help you with regards to conditioning your mind studying, but I can't give you the exact study method as there are much better person here who can give you that.. If you are to ask me about my habit, my habit is studying during dawn, drinking coffee or eating dark chocolate along with it .. It is very much effective for me if I'am to memorize something that I WROTE .. yes hand written ... When I was in college, we are sometimes required to study a whole chapter for just a day .. So what I do is, I just listen and copy to what my teacher says, I don't give shits with the book as it was all discussed by our teacher, and when I got home, I'll give myself a very good sleep, and during dawn I wake up to study the HAND WRITTEN notes that I took from my teacher's very blubby mouth.. xD

I similarly have found it very helpful to review the notes that I have taken when reading the RtK book as opposed to simply reading the RtK book. Something about reading what you have wrote or typed for that matter really jogs the memory.

YES! it was scientifically proven ... That's what you called, photographic memory .. there's less photographic memory in typed notes, such as books, as the letters were written in fixed manner, like the sizes of the letters, and how it's written, very identical.. Unlike hand written, hand written words will never have identical letters in it .. I took advantage of that, and it was very helpful to me... xD

I've been dreaming in random Japanese symbols... Is this normal?

Quite a few people claimed to have kept an 100 kanji per day learning rate and finish in record time so its certainly possible. It really depends how easily you can pick up kanji, memorise and remember the stories. I'm hideously inconsistent so unsure how useful this'll be but I did seem to hit a good method that allowed me to do 50-100 kanji a day for a few weeks.

Essentially a few hours before I went to sleep I'd go through the book, write down the new 50 kanji and their keyword in a notebook and then add them RevTK. I'd review them almost immediately having only briefly seen them and understandably fail most except the obvious ones. I'd then write the kanji, keyword and the most useful story I found from RevTK in a separate notebook. The next day I'd read the 2nd notebook with the stories briefly on the train then when I got home later I'd review them with around 90% correct. Seemed to work for me although maybe not work for everyone, particularly doing that many a day. Just try and find a method that works for you and plough through it. Good Luck...

Crawdaddycon Wrote:I've been dreaming in random Japanese symbols... Is this normal?

oh you should be thankful if that happened! Storing remote memories happened in dreams.. Psychology, that is.. xD

Out of curiosity, putting the bet to one side a bit -- what exactly are your goals as far as learning the Japanese language itself?

NightSky Wrote:Out of curiosity, putting the bet to one side a bit -- what exactly are your goals as far as learning the Japanese language itself?

I believe he'd stated it in OP.. He'd done nothing good before, now he's determined since he like Japanese stuffs, that's what I've remembered..

@crawdaddycon
So... How's it going? Are you still progressing as fast as you should?

Northern_Lord Wrote:@crawdaddycon
So... How's it going? Are you still progressing as fast as you should?

Unfortunately almost everyone that comes up with these kind of "challenges" (learn all these kanji writings, Complete N1 from scratch in 3 months etc etc) almost always post a lot in the beginning about why they want to do it and then disappear completely a few days later never to return. I guess its because people at the beginning who want to do things so quickly don't yet know just how difficult it is and how much effort is needed.

Hopefully OP will come back and give an update, but I'm going to make a wild guess now that hes already given up

[Zgarbas]

My bet is that he passed out and has developed a phobia for the word "kanji" which prevents him from opening this page ever again.

Doesn't seem like he's been on the forums since June 30th.
I too doubt it's going well.

He could really be going at it for all we know, but chances are he's feeling some performance pressure whatever the situation is lol.

Did he even mention whether he wanted to learn Japanese? Not just RTK, but actually learn Japanese o_O

I do hope he does.
I myself learned Kana just for fun, originally not intending ever to study Japanese. But learning 2042 Kanji without any backing motivation like that this might be way too large a task for anyone without autistic traits or abnormally good memory.

Animosophy Wrote:He could really be going at it for all we know, but chances are he's feeling some performance pressure whatever the situation is lol.

Did he even mention whether he wanted to learn Japanese? Not just RTK, but actually learn Japanese o_O

The only thing he wrote about prior experience with or interest in Japanese was "... As someone who only knows katakana and hiragana and is still quite new, but fascinated by, Japanese I cited an incorrect statistic..."

Northern_Lord Wrote:I do hope he does.
I myself learned Kana just for fun, originally not intending ever to study Japanese. But learning 2042 Kanji without any backing motivation like that this might be way too large a task for anyone without autistic traits or abnormally good memory.

I definitely agree. Speaking of autistic traits, which leads the mind to social function... One of the reasons I said that this bet would be bad for crawdaddycon's physical and psychological health is that he's 18 years old and so in the middle of an important period for developing social skills. Spending most of his waking time as a recluse for a huge chunk of summer is not very conducive to healthy social living. Animosophy said he was okay when he did 1000 kanji/10 days. But that was a shorter period with less strain(lower number of reviews/day on average I think, and he also had prior kanji learning experience) and might have been at a point in life that was more suited for this kind of project. Of course, it's not altogether impossible to do what crawdaddycon set out to do and stay active in other life domains in the meantime, but I'd say the risks of his health taking a hit in the long run are fairly large.

Crawdaddycon, if you read this, I hope I'm not weirding you out. I just think these things are important and it's a shame when people get burnt out on what ought to be enjoyable and more like a hobby than a job or full-time study subject (unless you have greater life goals that you need Japanese for, of course).