I'm a little more than a 1/3 done with RTK and I want to add just a handful of cards from both decks a day. I was just curious about some peoples view on how you learn from core2k/6k and tae kim?
do you just add a couple cards and keep failing them until you get them right?

and that comes to my nest question.. any tips on importing the media files to the core deck? I'm using nukemarines, he has a file for the vocab and the whole sentence I believe. I'm just starting to get the hang of anki... =P

ありがと！

The common stuff in tae kim is not worth srsing. It's just common. I don't see the point of drilling something that used in everyday conversational japanes. Familiarize yourself with the content but don't memorize it necessarily you can learn it vaguely and solidify that with comprehensible input

If you pass something every time and the interval doubles every time, you get a pattern like,
1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512

That's 9 reviews in a year before you're up to multi-year intervals.
I don't feel there's any grammar pattern that isn't worth reading a pattern sentence 9 or 10 times to master it. If there had been a Tae Kim deck when I was a beginner, I would have used it.

Of course, grammar that's -not- so common that it quickly becomes trivial to pass every time won't space out so quickly, but that's the SRS doing its job and having you review harder things more often than easier things.

Anyway, I'd personally focus on RTK until it was -done- as it's really a totally different learning experience, and then grab the core and the tae kim decks and suspend everything, and start working through Tae Kim's web site and unsuspend cards as I went based on what I encountered in Tae Kim. I'd use the optimized core deck and unsuspend extra cards in optimized-order whenever I had time to add vocab, and extra cards out of optimized order whenever I met them in material I was trying.

Since you read my guide, you know I advocate breaking things up into smaller chunks of 10 to 30 study hours between Kanji, Grammar, Vocabulary and Subs2srs. Hopefully this is a reasonable compromise between what text books do by doing all four every chapter and what we were doing on this forum which was doing all 2043 Kanji, then all Grammar (probably GTBJG), then all vocabulary (core 2k and 6k).

For studying, I use two methods for each area. The first method is the initial studying. The second method is the reviewing. Initial studying takes the most time and I think the most important. The review is still important as it saves all that effort put into initial studying.

For grammar, I use pseudo close delete where I'm trying to recall just the grammar portion. While I had it set to type in the answer (well, the part highlighted blue), that can be turned off as it was just a personal preference. During the studying phase, I read the associated Tae Kim chapter first. I add in any additional reminders that insure I'm getting the correct answer especially if equally valid answers exist. While it might not be in the grammar cards I uploaded, it's worthwhile to put the grammar rules and summary from Tae Kim in the NOTES field as a handy review in case of missing the answer.

For vocabulary, on initial study I write down the word in Kanji, then in kana, then I write out the sample sentence. Note that I changed this after about 2000 vocabulary words to just writing out the word but writing out sentences is good practice seeing as you missed out on a childhood in Japan (maybe pick up a penji book and really work on the equivalent of cursive for Kanji). I also mimic the audio as closely as I can for both the word and the sentence, though I admit I better than average ability with this for some reason. For review, it's about writing out and pronouncing the correct word. If I find I'm getting the wrong word because it's a reasonable answer, I put that word as kana in the warning field. I never worry too much about the other words in the sample sentence, and if I don't know what they are I don't mark the card wrong or difficult due to that.

I think for Anki 2.0 I re-uploaded the Core 2k/6k deck with entire image and audio files. I forget the exact title but it should show up as something like that. Anyway, should make it easier to get the decks and audio up and running.

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ryanjmack Wrote:I'm a little more than a 1/3 done with RTK and I want to add just a handful of cards from both decks a day. I was just curious about some peoples view on how you learn from core2k/6k and tae kim?
do you just add a couple cards and keep failing them until you get them right?

If your eager to move past RTK, then look into RTK-lite as mentioned in Nukemarine's guide.

If I were to start now and wanted to use the Tae Kim & Core2k combo I would probably:

* Make a single word vocab deck of the vocab used in the first part of Tae Kim and SRS this first (and the Te form section)
* SRS the grammar sentences from the same Tae Kim section (and the Te form)
* Move on to the first 500 Core sentences.

Then follow Nukemarine's guide from that point outwards.

Note: I don't like doing grammar sentences when I can't read the vocab in the sentence. I don't feel that reading sentences such as:

"His car is fast and sometimes X, whilst Mr Smith's car is Y and sometimes Z"

Is as productive as understanding the whole sentence. You could always swap the words you don't know in the sentences to those you do know.

I completed the first two parts of Nuke's guide by just setting Anki to add a few new cards each day. With this method I find you cannot set the rate very high (5-10) so progress was slow. At the moment I just bring in new words from those I have covered in iKnow or see in Grammar decks, because I have seen these before I can use a faster rate.

If you have the time pre-study words then suspend them in Anki. This will let you cover the deck much faster than simply adding per day.

Thanks for the great advice everybody, this probably saved me a lot of time. This is a clear example why this forum is an invaluable tool

heres a sentndce from a Japanese tv show with
The te form and the tara thing and ageru and ga and hoshii
http://imageshack.us/a/img607/5730/oppai.png

As you can tell its a funny sentence. Hilarious even.

There's also song lyrics. Srsing is fine as long as you're not srsing ridiculously common stuff like the stuff in the above sentence