I've recently been reading a bit about lucid dreaming, something I've never heard much about. For those who don't know, its all about being conscious that you are in a dream while sleeping, and often means you have control over it. Since reading about it I'm taking the first step towards attaining lucidity: just recalling more dreams I've had throughout the night. (You always have dreams during REM...its remembering them is the problem) Its amazing how much just willing yourself to remember them right before bed can help.Hmm...like self hypnosis. I think I will try this with kanji

So I've been at it a couple nights and have remembered more dreams than ever, and even had a very strange false awakening (waking up where you fell asleep in your own bed IN A DREAM). Which I guess is good because false awakenings can supposedly lead to lucid dreams.

So has anyone else heard of lucid dreaming, tried it before, failed, is an expert, or just has an opinion?

Am I just weird? :/

No. You're not weird. There's already a thread on lucid dreaming.
Link: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=4413

I actually have something weirder than lucid dreaming.
Sometime ago, I noticed that I was getting weird dreams.

One day, I was in Egypt.

Some other time, I'm dreaming about discovering helium-3 and methane hydate on Mars and the Moon and using it as a limitless energy source. I don't even know what helium-3 and methane hydate are or if they even exist!

Another day was a murder investigation(horrible disturbing nightmare).

Surprisingly, one day I was dreaming in fluent Spanish! (and I don't speak or understand
Spanish at all).

After all this , I discovered what was happening: It was my TV!

If I leave my TV on, whatever is on TV during my REM sleep
gets absorbed into my dream. It's weird, because I'm unconscious,
but somehow my body is able to interpret language and words around
me even when I'm sleeping.

The dream in Spanish was because of the History Channel. They used
to have another channel called History International. I never realized it at 6am or 7am, they had history shows in Spanish. I'm never awake that early. So I never realized that.

The Egyptian dream was because of an Egyptian archaeology show on History Channel.
The murder investigation was from watching a homicide detective show on Investigation Discovery.

The dream about methane hydate and helium was because I had it on the Science Channel.

I find the whole thing odd, because it means that humans don't need to
be conscious to process and visually conceptualize language.

chamcham Wrote:No. You're not weird. There's already a thread on lucid dreaming.
Link: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=4413

Well poop. So insanely off topic I didn't think to check. Ah well.

What you experienced sounds extremely strange! I generally sleep with all lights, tv, radio off... but I kinda want to try this now. Heheh.
I've been wondering about the potential relationship between REM sleep and language learning. Obviously not the most effective way to learn a language but its interesting to think about what we can process using only our subconscious!

chamcham Wrote:No. You're not weird. There's already a thread on lucid dreaming.
Link: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=4413

I actually have something weirder than lucid dreaming.
Sometime ago, I noticed that I was getting weird dreams.

One day, I was in Egypt.

Some other time, I'm dreaming about discovering helium-3 and methane hydate on Mars and the Moon and using it as a limitless energy source. I don't even know what helium-3 and methane hydate are or if they even exist!

Another day was a murder investigation(horrible disturbing nightmare).

Surprisingly, one day I was dreaming in fluent Spanish! (and I don't speak or understand
Spanish at all).

After all this , I discovered what was happening: It was my TV!

If I leave my TV on, whatever is on TV during my REM sleep
gets absorbed into my dream. It's weird, because I'm unconscious,
but somehow my body is able to interpret language and words around
me even when I'm sleeping.

The dream in Spanish was because of the History Channel. They used
to have another channel called History International. I never realized it at 6am or 7am, they had history shows in Spanish. I'm never awake that early. So I never realized that.

The Egyptian dream was because of an Egyptian archaeology show on History Channel.
The murder investigation was from watching a homicide detective show on Investigation Discovery.

The dream about methane hydate and helium was because I had it on the Science Channel.

I find the whole thing odd, because it means that humans don't need to
be conscious to process and visually conceptualize language.

Have you ever thought about seeing if this could help with your Japanese? Like have something in Japanese on like music on all night long? If you have the ability to remember your dreams to a good extent, it may be the easiest 10 hours of study a day you could get.

I've heard about Lucid dreaming from VSauce! I thought about trying it, but didn't have enough interest to seriously try.

chamcham Wrote:I actually have something weirder than lucid dreaming.
Sometime ago, I noticed that I was getting weird dreams.
...
I find the whole thing odd, because it means that humans don't need to
be conscious to process and visually conceptualize language.

What's so weird about it? Have you never woke up on your alarm clock ringing and was having a dream about a war siren, a woman screaming, a loud TV,...?

Joined a message forum for lucid dreaming back in 2003. I'm "GestaltAlteration" there if anyone happens to stumble on the place. Sort of been there done that with it now, but it's still fascinating how lucidity can be a learned activity through awesome techniques like Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream (DEILD), my recommended method. There's also the more famous Mnemonic Induced Lucid Dream (MILD) and Wake Induced Lucid Dream (WILD) techniques.

Ultimately the amount of time required during waking life to increase lucid dream chance discouraged me from sticking with doing them over the long haul. Everyone has different methods and success with it.

undead_saif Wrote:What's so weird about it? Have you never woke up on your alarm clock ringing and was having a dream about a war siren, a woman screaming, a loud TV,...?

What's really awesome is when your dream incorporates the alarm sound before it goes off. As in, I've had dreams that build up/set up a scenario where a loud noise is the climax and sometimes you wake up half a second before the alarm goes off.

rahsoul Wrote:

undead_saif Wrote:What's so weird about it? Have you never woke up on your alarm clock ringing and was having a dream about a war siren, a woman screaming, a loud TV,...?

What's really awesome is when your dream incorporates the alarm sound before it goes off. As in, I've had dreams that build up/set up a scenario where a loud noise is the climax and sometimes you wake up half a second before the alarm goes off.

Well that would be weird!

I've had those weird "alarm sound" dreams too. Funny what your brain can come up with! And then I've had dreams of waking up to my alarm only to wake up from my alarm seconds later. False awakenings can be freaky!