I'm doing the Core 6000 right now and got to wondering about how the kanji that occur in the sentences line up with the ones learned in RtK. I'm posting my findings here since others studying the same way may find it interesting. This is based on the sentences as they currently appear on iKnow. The Kore list should be similar but not identical because of variation in the editing.

1539 of the 2042 classic Heisig kanji from the old RtK1 versions appear at least once in the sentences (75%)

89 of the 965 original RtK3 kanji appear at least once in the sentences (9%). Some of these like 誰 have been moved to RtK1 in the current edition.

1 of the 23 RtK supplement kanji that was not previously covered by Heisig (as opposed to those the supplement just moved from Rtk3 to RtK1) appears in the sentences. That kanji is 嗅.

7 kanji not covered by Heisig at all appear in the iKnow sentences. With unofficial keywords of my own choosing, they are:

頷 nod
炒 stir-fry
舐 taste
餃 gyoza
贅 luxury
揉 massage
剝 peel off [old]

If you are only doing Core 2000 instead of Core 6000, you will not see any non-Heisig kanji at all.

I'm assuming you finished it already so could you post the numbers for the core 2k, I'm going through it and was wondering on the breakdown of the decks.

Like how many total kanji
how many hiragana/katakana words
how many of the joyo kanji are covered in core 2k and core 6k?

Thanks

EasyJapanezy Wrote:I'm assuming you finished it already so could you post the numbers for the core 2k, I'm going through it and was wondering on the breakdown of the decks.

Like how many total kanji
how many hiragana/katakana words
how many of the joyo kanji are covered in core 2k and core 6k?

Thanks

I have separated the kana from my core 6k list and there were 907 of them.

Disclaimer: I did it manually so it may be wrong. I don't have a pc.

http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...#pid114826

Interesting how Cangy's findings are similar to mine but not quite the same. Different versions of the list have slight variations.

Non-Joyo kanji in the sentences:
鞄嬉綺綺鹸鞄賑醤碗喧嘩喧嘩馳叩鯉噂噛嘘嘘噌襖噌綺叱髭剃濡姪噂嬉
雀噌蝶蝶叱頷咳鞄濡炒叱癌嘘舐掴詫鳩甥晦噌鰻蒲餃贅噛喧嘩揃嬉濡溢嬉噂頬揉儲嬉釘濡釘噌碗嬉詫儲嬉笹咳釘甥姪噂

The ones on the first line appear in sentences for the Core 2000 vocab (though not necessarily the first 2000 sentences, sentences on iKnow can appear for multiple vocabulary words and words can have more than one sentence).

545 of the 2136 Joyo kanji do not appear in the sentences, so the coverage in Core6k is 74%. For the Core2k, 1155 Joyo kanji are missing, so coverage is 46%. This assumes you study all the sentences listed for the first 2000 vocabulary words.

I have not finished studying the sentences. I'm actually just starting out, and wanted to do some analysis to see how much I would be learning, and possibly put together an index of which kanji and readings have been seen already and what is new material to learn.

a) This is from the "Core 2000 and 6000 Vocabulary and Sentences" shared Anki deck:

曾,其,炒,飩,饂,麩,嗅 are kanji from the vocabulary that aren't in RTK1 5th or RTK3. Of those, only 嗅 is in RTK1 6th.

Four additional kanji that aren't in any RTK book come from the sentences:
椒,箒,薔,薇

b) Three (two) kanji not in RTK are from the split "Japanese Core 6000 Step 01-12 (Listening Sentence & Vocab)" shared Anki deck/s:
炒,步,(嗅)

c) Nukemarine's 6k deck only has two (one) that are/is not in RTK: 炒,(嗅)

d) In the Core 10k deck, there are 106 kanji in the vocabulary not in RTK1 5th or RTK3:

閏,掬,捲,蜘,摸,佇,儘,俎,俯,儚,几,凭,呟,咄,唸,喩,嗅,嗟,嗽,嘴,嘸,嚏,囀,埃,壺,奢,屓,彷,徨,惧,罹,掏,揉,撥,擽,敲,旁,椒,楷,橙,檻,鬱,浚,涎,漑,灌,炒,焜,煌,燵,璧,痣,瘤,皰,皺,睨,瞼,碌,稍,窶,箒,緞,縊,縋,縺,罅,罠,聊,聳,臍,舐,茹,茣,蓙,薔,薇,蕾,蛉,蛛,蜻,褄,褪,訛,誂,謳,貪,貶,贅,贔,跣,踉,踵,蹌,蹲,躱,軈,轢,遽,銜,頷,餃,餡,饉,鬘,靡,黴

7 of those are in RTK 6th:
喩,嗅,惧,楷,鬱,璧,貪

Only one extra kanji can be found in the sentences:
晰

Also, 103 words from Core10k that are not marked as "common" in EDICT:
http://pastebin.com/UvwxcvWz
(no English meanings attached, sorry)

I wonder what the history behind the differences is, whether Nukemarine did some editing to make for better cards or the sentences got revised during the smart.fm to iKnow transition or what.