Does anyone know any premade decks of the form of the following example?

Front: "はしを掴んだ
Back: "箸".

My vocabulary is around the 25,000 range but my writing ability is really behind. I've done RTK a long time ago, but it doesn't really help when recalling what combination of kanji goes with what words. I've been playing around with 書き取り exercises on the Kanken DS game but it doesn't seem very efficient compared to Anki.

My Japanese friend who's always lived in America so struggles with Kanji could also use something like this.

I know I could make such a deck myself, but it just seems so time consuming... I could learn about 50 a day in about 25 minutes but adding them would take a solid hour. :/

I recommend you don't use that format(not that it's a bad thing). I used this format for a months now, it does work but what I noticed is, if you provide context. It's easier to remember. I recommend cloze deletion by providing context or even Massive Context. It helps and plus you get reading practice on the side. So you learn to write the kanji/vocab from memory and you solidify the reading for that kanji in that context.

As for making all of this automated, not too sure but it would make life easier for everybody. Or you could just add at a small pace of 20-30 new cards for this particular format. So you don't get burnout

My example did have context though. :S

Having full sentences on the front in kana with the same sentence written in kanji on the back would be useful too. Maybe there's a sentence 読み方 deck out there which I could flip back to front... I'll see if I can find anything that doesn't have kanji in the answers.

Edit: aha, the shared deck titled "7128 japanese sentences tanuki" seems to fit the bill.

dizmox Wrote:My example did have context though. :S

Having full sentences on the front in kana with the same sentence written in kanji on the back would be useful too. Maybe there's a sentence 読み方 deck out there which I could flip back to front... I'll see if I can find anything that doesn't have kanji in the answers.

Edit: aha, the shared deck titled "7128 japanese sentences tanuki" seems to fit the bill.

or you could just add massive context sentences and cloze one the vocabulary words you want to be able to write and automatically add that into your anki deck, via a text file. I'm going to do that pretty soon but only from fun materials(games,animes,news,anything that's interesting to me).

Yea as long as it has context, you should be fine and your only testing 1 per card, otherwise it will be hard to memorize for the long-term, which is what you want.

Oops, the deck I mentioned doesn't fit the bill at all, I leapt to conclusions after only seeing one card.

Is this "massive context" some AJATT premium thing?

dizmox Wrote:Oops, the deck I mentioned doesn't fit the bill at all, I leapt to conclusions after only seeing one card.

Is this "massive context" some AJATT premium thing?

yea it is but it's basically gathering context and testing one thing. It's cloze deletion based learning. There are plenty of different srs methods out there that I do want to experiment with. Like having 1 vocab and monlinigual definitions on the front card and cloze delete one and the answer contains all the readings+the clozed deletion part for which your testing.

This is what I want to do with my sentence deck. So even if I only add 10-30 new cards per day, in tbe long run my reading/understanding of kanji will become flawless(or at least really advanced and well)

I ended up finding a Core 6000 deck on the shared decklist that I could put into the kana -> kanji mould, that works for now.

dizmox Wrote:I ended up finding a Core 6000 deck on the shared decklist that I could put into the kana -> kanji mould, that works for now.

glad you found what works for you. I plan to go hunting for massive amount of native material from online and start implementing it to my decks. It's time I reach the next level for Japanese learning. 2 years and counting (I'm giving myself 5 years to reach complete fluency in each skill and yes, that includes writing physically!)

dizmox, This might be primitive, but it works and doesn't take any time. :-) You could make a spreadsheet column with a formula to replace the target kanji word with corresponding kana word (or a cloze delete). The Tanuki or core10K would work for this.

=SUBSTITUTE(C2;A2;B2) i.e. (sentence;kanji;kana)
=SUBSTITUTE(C2;A2;"_____")

If you use core, you might consider writing the kanji word after hearing the word audio and sentence audio to get listening practice at the same time. The close delete sentence could be in white as a fall back.

I would avoid all-kana sentences. If you want to do full sentence dictation, use audio.

I'm convinced that writing words helps create longer lasting memories, but try not to get too caught up with isolated vocab. (Structure can be seductive...) :-)