Hi guys,

I was wondering how you guys make J-J Sentence Cards? AJATT Made a good example pasted below, but I dont know how to use correct Japanese to translate the cards. Vocabulary cards are easy copy paste from goo.ne.jp or sanseido, but for sentences how do you guys do them?

Here is his example:


QUESTION (FRONT):

お前は何者だ？

ANSWER (BACK):

お・まえ　は（わ）　なに・もの　だ
おまえ【御前】同等または､目下の相手をゾンザイに､また親愛の情を込めて呼ぶ語｡
現代では､多く､男が使う｡対等の親しい関係では｢おれ｣に対し｢お前｣と言う｡
なにもの【何者】姓名･身分などの分からない者を指していう語｡どういう人｡だれ｡何人(ﾅﾆﾋﾞﾄ)｡｢昨日の君の相手は何者かね｣。
めした【目下】地位または年齢が自分より下であること｡また､その人｡

to me it seems J-J cards are only possible once your Japanese is at such a level that doing sentences becomes tedious and doing individal vocab is a better way to go. granted, I'm just guessing, as I'm only at 4000ish sentences right now, and i definately need J-E for the moment.

I think it really comes down to knowing a lot of vocab/context. Plus it really comes down to getting more used to japanese via immersion,reading,grammar,etc. Don't worry about monolingual. Take it slowly with basic words/sentences. And you'll eventually be able to get it.

If there's one thing I've learned from having J-J definitions on all of my vocabulary cards, it's that they're not always necessary. The J-E definitions for お前 and 何者 would be 10 times simpler for that card without any loss of meaning, and without necessitating a third definition unrelated to the sentence. I removed my definition field last week (saving 7MB), and now use Apple's cool URL scheme to look up the word in 大辞林 by tapping the reading. My cards are lighter and easier to speed through, but if I need to stop and clarify the meaning further, I have quick access to a full, nicely formatted definition that includes pitch accent details as well.




Asides from making things bloated and inefficient, the sort of example you gave seems like overkill to me. I don't think you'd read any of it more than once or twice either. I end up breezing through sentences without even looking at the back, that's one reason I don't like using them for vocabulary.

Awesome feedback guys, thanks!

"Apple's cool URL scheme to look up the word in 大辞林 by tapping the reading"
Hey... can you explain to me how you did that with daijirin and anki? That is soo cool!!!!!!

How do i do it with my ipod touch?

animehunter123 Wrote:"Apple's cool URL scheme to look up the word in 大辞林 by tapping the reading"
Hey... can you explain to me how you did that with daijirin and anki? That is soo cool!!!!!!

How do i do it with my ipod touch?

Have you updated to AnkiMobile 1.6? If so, just add this link to your Lookup list.

mkdaijirin://jp.monokakido.DAIJIRIN/search?text={0}&srcname=Anki&src=anki://

If you haven't noticed it yet, open your deck and go to Tools > All Actions > Lookup. You can add it to the quick bar to make it more convenient. That'll allow you to automatically look up the currently selected text in 大辞林. This is probably most useful for sentences.

If you have a field with a single word, like my vocabulary deck, you can add the link to the card itself to make it even more convenient. Just enter the following link somewhere in your Card Layout (Tools > Deck Properties > Edit). Just change Expression to the name of your field, and 検索 to whatever you want to be hyperlinked (I used {{Reading}}).

<a
href="mkdaijirin://jp.monokakido.DAIJIRIN/search?text={{text:Expression}}&s rcname=Anki&src=anki://">検索</a>

Javizy,

Do you know how this could be done with 大辞泉？ I tried using the example that was in the anki information section for lookup but I couldn't get it working. I'm guessing that each app has a different url scheme but I can't find it for 大辞泉. Do you have any suggestions?

I've noticed J-J get's easier as you are farther into Japanese. I don't have any trouble understanding J-J now but when I Started/made the switch. It was hard, really hard. You'll notice that you can understand Japanese on it's own, without an English translation with it.

Yea, I agree. When I was first doing core 2000, J-J was really hard and seemed like too much work but now I always have to get the J definition. I find that having the J definition helps me remember the word better as it usually provides more details or maybe it just forces me to really think about as opposed to one word english translation.

If anyone knows how to setup the url scheme to use daijisen in anki mbile, please let me know!

jcbot05 Wrote:Javizy,

Do you know how this could be done with 大辞泉？ I tried using the example that was in the anki information section for lookup but I couldn't get it working. I'm guessing that each app has a different url scheme but I can't find it for 大辞泉. Do you have any suggestions?

大辞林's source code was posted on a Japanese forum, and I found the link (or rather clues how to put it together) in there. I had a bit of help from Damien as well. You could check the Anki forum to see if anyone's worked it out there. Otherwise you'd probably need to contact the developers or try to look for the code.

Hopefully they'll make this feature more accessible in future. I'd like to add it to my news app and Safari.