Hi Guys

民さん、お元気でいらっしゃるんですか？

Im starting RTK, and use Anki with my Ipod. It was a hefty price tag, but I use have used my deck for over 38,000 reps; so I decided he deserved the money. Android is great too, but I was wondering what ipod touch / iphone applications do you guys use? Any others worth getting?

I currently use:

anki
kotoba
kanji ls
kanjibox
kansaiben

Of those, anki and kotoba are used on a daily basis. The others are just for fun. Which apps do you guys use?

[Katsuo]

Here's the longest thread on iPod/Phone apps. Some personal favourites:

Sentence/Vocab learning
Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook going cheap at the moment at 350円.
Japanese Sensei: Nearly 10,000 sentences. Same source as Core 2,000/ 6,000.

Dictionaries
Wisdom. E-J, J-E. Medium-size dictionary.
大辞林 Daijirin J-J
Jishop Kanji. Similar approach to Halpern's dictionaries (but more kanji & less examples). Has had several updates and is now much better than when first released.

Is that legal for the japanese Sensei app to sell smart.fm's material?

[Katsuo]

kerosan41 Wrote:Is that legal for the japanese Sensei app to sell smart.fm's material?

The sentence source for both is The CJK Dictionary Institute.
However, Smart.fm and Japanese Sensei provide their own respective audio files. Comparing the two, Smart.fm go more for naturalness, Japanese Sensei for clarity.

It has been mentioned numerous times before, but I use the excellent Japanese dictionary from Codefromtokyo. Don't let the price tag put you off! This app deserves way more than 16$.

Well, incidentally, I got it for free during a promotional event. Lucky me!

The Japanese Sensei app doesn't sell Smart.fm material, they each licensed data from the CJK dictionary institute. J Sensei has 4000 more words and sentences.

The main Japanese apps I use are:
- Ankimobile
- J Sensei
- Japanese

J Sensei really is good, if only for the huge collection of audio. I study in J Sensei, then unsuspend the items I learned in my core6000 anki deck. If I come across something not in core6000, I add it manually.

Daily use

- Anki
- Japanese
- 共同ニュース

Occasional use

- i英辞郎
- JLPTexercise (I'll be using this more when I finish KM1級)
- N1Word (same as above)
- 漫画の新聞
- Wapedia (for reading Japanese Wiki offline)
- 読売 and JUNK podcasts (not really an app, but y'know)

Don't use now, but were good for a while

- KanjiPop
- 漢熟パーク
- 猫ラーメン 全巻

There's probably some good games on there that I'm missing, but iTunes is awful to browse through. That piece of s**t needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

iMat72 Wrote:It has been mentioned numerous times before, but I use the excellent Japanese dictionary from Codefromtokyo.

I tried this out before but it didn't allow you to copy word definitions (e.g. to paste them into anki) which made this app completely useless to me...

any chance that you can now copy definitions to paste into other programs?

Thanks

juniperpansy Wrote:

iMat72 Wrote:It has been mentioned numerous times before, but I use the excellent Japanese dictionary from Codefromtokyo.

I tried this out before but it didn't allow you to copy word definitions (e.g. to paste them into anki) which made this app completely useless to me...

any chance that you can now copy definitions to paste into other programs?

Thanks

You can't select text, but you can e-mail vocabulary lists to yourself. That's what I use to make my flashcards.

I use japanse, anki, the Tae Kim's ios app and some demos (as a beginner).

but I see I'll have some shopping to do

I use "Japanese Sensei", it is great and each quiz is only 20 items in length and is easy to bust through while waiting in line, etc. Also have "Japanese" from codefromtokyo, but that is new purchase and haven't used it extensively.

Kanjibox looks nice, but I haven't tried it yet.

Haven't purchased anything else yet.

Not sure if I should start a new thread for this... how much has everyone reading this spent on apps for their iDevices? Are most of the apps you use free?

So far, in planning things out, resolve's Anki app is the only one for sure I know I'll invest in. I have this fearful idea that owning an iDevice requires one to buy a million single-purpose apps to get anything done.

All I really use on my iPhone is Anki, Daijirin and iBunko. I figure it totals something like $45. I find you don't need that many apps; naturally, this may depend on your intended usage of the iDevice and the scope of the apps you purchase. Most apps are very cheap, however. Of course, things like anki and dictionaries are the exception.

If you're very stingy, there are legally dubious ways to acquire the bigger apps, but you might run into problem with updates, and this involves jailbreaking which will essentially make your device less secure. Since I like to support things that are of use to me anyway, I don't consider it worth the effort.

Yeah I'll probably end up with a single handful of apps since my iDevice is going to be a glorified notepad.

Hey Blahah, how's Wakaru app working for you?

nest0r Wrote:I have this fearful idea that owning an iDevice requires one to buy a million single-purpose apps to get anything done.

Well, that's kinda the point of the design of the system. I guess you can blame Apple. It takes a long time to find the correct apps to do what you need, but once you have it setup, it can be a huge time saver and as a study device, it can be fairly useful.

But to be honest, Anki aside, I haven't really spent any money on apps. Kotoba makes an okay dictionary for free. I don't see a need for much else, aside from my audio files.

I'm now the proud user of AnkiMobile. Hopefully I never have to buy an app again.

Currently testing out various handwriting/notetaking apps. Anyone used 'FastFinga'? Which sounds more like an XXX app than something I'd use with my stylus.

So for English I'm very happy with the handwriting recognition of WritePad (glad I ignored the negative reviews), but it doesn't seem like there's anything like that yet for Japanese, is there? The most I can find is where you write everything character by character in a bottom pane, such as the HWPen thing or: http://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/id338520753?mt=8 (The English version being letter by letter.)

I don't particularly need it, just curious. ;p

I recently bought ianki and I was wondering if there was any way to write out the kanji and have the program recognize it so as to make use of the touch screen (and also because it's the best way to be sure you really remember).
If not which are the best apps that use this function?

Erysichthon Wrote:I recently bought ianki and I was wondering if there was any way to write out the kanji and have the program recognize it so as to make use of the touch screen (and also because it's the best way to be sure you really remember).
If not which are the best apps that use this function?

Use the desktop anki plugin "Embed scratchpad". I prefer the simple version (although admittedly, I've disabled it; I use pen and paper instead). Just follow the instructions in the plugin download window and you should be all set.

You can't have anki recognize your input, however, but at least it lets you scribble them out on the screen.

[ファブリス]

nestOr Wrote:I have this fearful idea that owning an iDevice requires one to buy a million single-purpose apps to get anything done.

Why would you need a million single-purpose apps?

Nothing is truly free.

Somehow a lot of people are attracted to Android because of its "free" appeal. They mistakenly believe that Android is "open" whereas Apple's software is "closed". In my mind, this particular subset of Android users are freetards.

Android Isn’t About Building a Mobile Platform
http://www.tightwind.net/2011/01/android...-platform/

And btw, there are tons of free apps on iTunes. Even on App Store which all Mac users got with a recent update, I can see right here there's a "Top Free" apps list on the home page. And let's not even begin to compare the quality of free Android apps with that of iOS apps...

nest0r Wrote:Yeah I'll probably end up with a single handful of apps since my iDevice is going to be a glorified notepad.

Hey Blahah, how's Wakaru app working for you?

Wakaru has turned out to be a good purchase, although I was kidding myself about how much time I might actually spend reading. The app is solid though, is the only good option for rikaichan-like functionality for books on the i-platforms.

As for spending on apps, I've probablu spent around £50, but some of that was wasted. AnkiMobile was the best £15 I've ever spent, and J Sensei is worth the cash too (£9.99 I think) - I follow the order of words in J Sensei and activate them in my core2+6k deck (but we may soon have a full J Sensei deck as per other thread). I also prefer Japanese to Kotoba, so I paid for that. And Wakaru. All my other apps are cracked (except angry birds).

ファブリス Wrote:

nestOr Wrote:I have this fearful idea that owning an iDevice requires one to buy a million single-purpose apps to get anything done.

Why would you need a million single-purpose apps?

Nothing is truly free.

Somehow a lot of people are attracted to Android because of its "free" appeal. They mistakenly believe that Android is "open" whereas Apple's software is "closed". In my mind, this particular subset of Android users are freetards.

Android Isn’t About Building a Mobile Platform
http://www.tightwind.net/2011/01/android...-platform/

And btw, there are tons of free apps on iTunes. Even on App Store which all Mac users got with a recent update, I can see right here there's a "Top Free" apps list on the home page. And let's not even begin to compare the quality of free Android apps with that of iOS apps...

For the record I didn't mention Android, did I? I hope not because I've never used it and don't know anything about it. ;p

It just seems that the OS is so limited, that in order to get anything done, rather than using a smaller # of interconnected utilities with a broad list of functions, there's this compartmentalized micropricing of a million applications with a 1:1 relationship for every little thing. It's more of a 'feeling' I have while operating the device at the moment. Somehow claustrophobic, everything insular and disconnected and almost petty, and a sense that all my actions are being monetized.

I do like that Apple has managed to rejuvenate the industry of software development at least in terms of excitement and generating impetus to pay for software when possible rather than pirate it or having a pressure to make everything free, wait for people to donate, then get frustrated and give up, for the sake of authors, but it also seems to have 'reset' the savvy people have for avoiding spam and wasting their money, as the rating system seems inaccurate and it's difficult to differentiate spammy useless apps (in part I think I just need to develop my BS-detecting faculty for the app store), pricing seems arbitrary, and the quality of 'free' apps is very poor in my estimation, and loaded with ads, reminders, and broken functions that go unmentioned until you actually take the time to DL the app. Not to mention I'm not yet seeing any kind of renaissance of software-developing creativity that's resulting from this renewal of making and selling software with a new thriving base of customers. Feels more like a step backwards, as novel and refreshing as I may find it to so easily and instantly compensate folks for their work.

Blahah Wrote:

nest0r Wrote:Yeah I'll probably end up with a single handful of apps since my iDevice is going to be a glorified notepad.

Hey Blahah, how's Wakaru app working for you?

Wakaru has turned out to be a good purchase, although I was kidding myself about how much time I might actually spend reading. The app is solid though, is the only good option for rikaichan-like functionality for books on the i-platforms.

As for spending on apps, I've probablu spent around £50, but some of that was wasted. AnkiMobile was the best £15 I've ever spent, and J Sensei is worth the cash too (£9.99 I think) - I follow the order of words in J Sensei and activate them in my core2+6k deck (but we may soon have a full J Sensei deck as per other thread). I also prefer Japanese to Kotoba, so I paid for that. And Wakaru. All my other apps are cracked (except angry birds).

Yeah it seems like the "there's no other choice at the moment" thing seems to apply to a lot of apps and functions, for now at least. I have Wakaru now but haven't really used it. I like what I've explored so far, though.

I actually think that with a half dozen apps, half bought and half free, I'm pretty much set now, nice.

nest0r, Blahah - if you don't mind me asking, what types of files does Wakaru read?

Lindley Wrote:nest0r, Blahah - if you don't mind me asking, what types of files does Wakaru read?

In addition to the Wakaru web browser w/ pop-up definitions like the reader, the Wakaru reader (which came with a few free ebooks) allows import of .txt (in UTF-8 or Shift_JIS) files only, or you can copy/paste (but for that function it has to be stuff in UTF-8) text into the reader. I haven't imported anything yet but that's according to the Help guide.