SRS sucks!

yudantaiteki Wrote:

Matthew Wrote:Can someone please point me to an example of a person who learned the ~2500 kanji and ~15,000 vocabulary words required to be fluent "naturally"?

There are plenty of people, as I said, who have become "fluent" without making extensive use of flash cards or SRS. 2500 kanji is a pretty high number that sets the bar for proficiency higher than most native speakers, and I'm not sure many people can reach that point without a lot of intense studying, but you can learn quite a lot through reading without using flash cards to review.

2500 is still less than a typical native speaker. There is the ~200 to be added to joyo kanji in a few months that they all already know, another 200-300 commonly used in names, and probably most people know at least a few hundred more that don't fall in either of those categories. The average for native is probably at least 3,000 -- it's pretty doubtful that Japanese would have problems reading even RtK3 kanji.