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RTK and CORE2k overrated?

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Hey guys,

I realize this thread title sound like blasphemy.


However this just reflects my learning experience after more than 2 years and I would like to hear your take on it.
To sum up my experience:

RTK:
I completed RTK. While it has some obvious benefits - it demystified Kanji for me, and they no longer look like random symbols to me - I also have to say that at this point I doubt the benefit of keeping reviewing Kanji and their meanings for a long time once completed.
"Learn 2000 Kanji" in 3 months, come on really? If I look back at it, this seems like a good marketing line at best. Yes you can go through RTK in that time frame, but have you really "learned" all these Kanji?

At some point it just occurred  to me that, at the end of the day, who cares what you recognize, what can you actually read?
And yes I realize that this would be the purpose of RTK2 or example sentences.

And while RTK2 is little more than a Kanji-only-dictionary, the example sentence bring me to the second point:


CORE2k/ Nayr's CORE etc
While I really appreciate the work of the people who put this together - am I really the only one who arrived at a burn-out when trying to add 20 sentences every day?
Do most of you really find these out-of-context sentences that helpful, did they in fact help you that much to retain vocabulary? (Especially if you look at how much time you need to invest to complete your sentences daily.)
Or are there some of you who at some point realized it felt more like a chore than actual useful and effective study time?


I really don't intend to sound negative here, and if this helped you then of course, good on you.
I am just wondering if others felt like me at some point or another, I just can't understand anymore why this study method is so widely recommended to beginners.


Isn't it much more effective to spend your study time on vocabulary and grammar that you are actually interested in?

For example I am attempting to read children stories for 1st and 2nd graders right now. There's some Kanji, but also lots of hiragana with spaces in between, which makes it easier to read and to not get overwhelmed with a high amount of too advanced Kanji. As I follow the story, I enter all unknown vocabulary into Anki to review it later. Because this gives me context, and because I am able to read and understand more of the story when I go back to it, this seems much more efficient to me. I am also able to study for a longer time, because I stay interested.

Same goes for material from Jpod101, I enter unknown vocab into Anki, review it, listen again and understand more.

I am just wondering if I am an exception here, and most people indeed had a lot of success with a combination of RTK reviews (with meanings) and ANKI Core decks.

If some of you felt the same as me at some point in their japanese studies, I'd really like to hear from you.

Thanks!
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RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by maxwell777 - 2017-04-30, 11:25 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by theadamie - 2017-04-30, 11:42 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by sholum - 2017-05-01, 12:48 am
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by vix86 - 2017-05-01, 3:17 am
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by wareya - 2017-05-01, 1:20 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by maxwell777 - 2017-05-06, 10:36 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by cophnia61 - 2017-05-11, 7:59 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by Iuri_ - 2017-05-12, 5:18 am
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by wareya - 2017-05-12, 8:46 am
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by Stansfield123 - 2017-05-12, 5:57 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by wareya - 2017-05-13, 7:49 am
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by Stansfield123 - 2017-05-13, 12:07 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by cophnia61 - 2017-05-12, 9:47 am
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by Iuri_ - 2017-05-12, 2:06 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by Robik - 2017-05-12, 2:18 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by Iuri_ - 2017-05-12, 4:24 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by wareya - 2017-05-12, 5:36 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by Iuri_ - 2017-05-12, 6:01 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by Aspiring - 2017-05-13, 12:01 am
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by wareya - 2017-05-13, 12:08 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by cophnia61 - 2017-05-13, 12:45 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by Stansfield123 - 2017-05-13, 2:24 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by cophnia61 - 2017-05-16, 5:17 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by Stansfield123 - 2017-05-16, 6:59 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by Matthias - 2017-05-16, 8:39 pm
RE: RTK and CORE2k overrated? - by wareya - 2017-05-17, 10:13 am