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Core with romaji and translation

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Yes, what you say is certainly true. Most of us will retain an accent for the rest of our lives.

But this isn't quite the same thing as having a false idea of what the sounds actually ought to be. The reader who criticized me for saying "hun" rather than "fun" is a case in point, and I think he is not atypical at all. He seriously thought that "fun" written in Romaji and pronounced in whatever dialect of English he spoke was what ふん is supposed to sound like, and writing it a different way is actually wrong since it ought to be written with a good old fashioned English F.

This gets us off to a very bad start in both speaking and hearing Japanese. It also makes a lot of what goes on in the language feel like random transformations rather than making logical patterns.

Someone made the point that most Japanese were illiterate not long ago. That too is true. They didn't know their kana. But what they also didn't do was import a script made to represent a foreign sound-system (or as you say, a group of foreign sound-systems) with which they already had strong non-Japanese sound-associations.

No, in most cases pronunciation will never become perfect and yes, everyone has some very false ideas about pronunciation at the start. But reinforcing them every day with the continual use of Romaji just makes it all that much more difficult.
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Core with romaji and translation - by Mosh88 - 2017-04-02, 6:36 am
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by Mosh88 - 2017-04-02, 10:57 am
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by phil321 - 2017-04-03, 12:34 pm
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by cracky - 2017-04-03, 12:53 pm
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by fkb9g - 2017-04-05, 10:19 pm
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by sumsum - 2017-04-03, 7:36 am
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by sumsum - 2017-04-03, 10:10 pm
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by HelenF - 2017-04-04, 5:53 am
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by pm215 - 2017-04-05, 4:01 am
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by HelenF - 2017-04-05, 11:04 am
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by cracky - 2017-04-06, 6:35 pm
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by faneca - 2017-04-14, 7:37 pm
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by pm215 - 2017-04-15, 6:26 am
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by faneca - 2017-04-16, 6:38 pm
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by faneca - 2017-04-18, 7:45 pm
RE: Core with romaji and translation - by CureDolly - 2017-04-21, 12:34 pm