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Listening and speaking, I'm still a little lost

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When I started studying kanji with RtK I was sceptical, and full of doubts concerning the effectiveness of that method. But after 500 kanji I started to see results, and after 1000 kanji I was sure about it's effectiveness. So in the end it was just a +1 activity. Just add one more kanji to gain more knowledge.

The same is with reading and mining words to put into Anki. In the beginning it was a mess, there was mostly only forgetting and frustration, but now I see that basically the more books I read, the more words I mine, the more words I put into Anki, the more will my knowledge increase. Now even if I forget a lot, if I don't understand some sentences and so on, I know for sure it will take care of itself in the future if I continue to apply the method.

But with listening comprehension I'm still unsure of what I need to do. Obviously the general rule is "the more you listen the more you will understand". But I have some doubts:

How many times do I listen to the same material? I've seen a video of Moses (laoshu505000) where he says he listen to the same content hundreds of time. While other people like Steve Kauffman say they listen like 10 times to the same content and they switch to other contents when they get bored (the same with the jalup admin and even katsumoto).

If the "listen hundreds of time" is true, how much of this need to be active listening?

What to listen to? Is native content ok, as long as it is mostly n+1, so it's purely listening comprehension activity and not new vocabulary acquisitions?

As an example, I'm watching "Nanase futatabi", and with japanese subtitles it's really easy, but it gets difficult if I remove the subtitles. There are many words that I know if I read them, but if I listen to them (or if I read them in hiragana form), I don't know what the hell they mean, even if they are pronounced clearly and slowly.

To the ones who already have a good listening comprehension skill (you can follow drama and anime easily without transcript), how did you got there?

About speaking: if I want to get a little more conversational, it's better to put apart native contents like drama, and to use content most focused on speaking, like the flr courses (see moses again) or the shadowing books?

I'm really tempted to buy the flr course because it focuses exactly on the kind of conversations I want to have to begin my speaking adventure. I know there are many resources like jpod101, which I think is great, but they are mostly focused in situation like where you are a tourist in japan or a student.

I don't know what to do outside what I'm already doing (repetitive basically reading and listening of japanese drama with japanese subtitles avaiable).

Thank you all in advance Smile
Edited: 2016-03-29, 11:45 am
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Listening and speaking, I'm still a little lost - by cophnia61 - 2016-03-29, 11:40 am