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    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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frychiko Wrote:Very gratifying experience! Certainly beats old-school textbook learning. I personally wouldn't recommend that method. Depends on what you mean by "old-school textbook". If you mean tho...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-21, 2:15 am
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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lazar Wrote:Hey, I love the adventures of Mary and Takeshi :P And when you say "graded readers" you mean like, Genki I/II reading comprehension sections? Yes, they are like extended versions of the co...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-21, 1:49 am
    Thread: My article on Tonari no Totoro
Post: My article on Tonari no Totoro

lazar Wrote:wow! this is in-depth. Did you do this as some kind of project? no, I'm just masochistic, and obsessive. to be honest, it started because I was trying to make sure I understand every line ...
Christine_Tham General discussion 12 4,042 2008-06-21, 12:26 am
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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lazar Wrote:nice! I'm working on genki at school and now I'm on II. Do you like the adventures of Mary-san and her boyfriend Takeshi-san? I find them a bit droll, but the reading comprehension stuff a...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-21, 12:15 am
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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lazar Wrote:nice! I'm working on genki at school and now I'm on II. As for what you said about practicing on a notebook and memorization through motor memory (hehe, I also play the piano so I know exa...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-21, 12:06 am
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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phauna Wrote:You know a few hundred with readings, I know 2000 without readings. It's kind of even, and everyday I learn more and more readings. No, the whole point was it's not "kind of even." That'...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 11:58 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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lazar Wrote:Without an SRS I find it amazing if you can remember a lot of kanji in only a few hours a week of practice. Or is my question answered by reading the 3 books you suggested? I strongly reco...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 11:45 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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And if you are too cheap to buy 1 book (even though it appears you have already bought several), here's a web site that groups over 6,500 commonly used Japanese kanji into phonetic categories: http:/...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 11:29 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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Dragg Wrote:I'm not going to buy a book just because someone says "buy it". I'm a relatively poor college student so, unfortunately, I need to be convinced first. As far as the Japanese phonetic boo...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 11:21 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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Dragg Wrote:@christina If you actually give me a book or a web source that explains which of these phonetic markers actually work in Japanese. If you recall earlier, I gave you the names of four spec...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 11:15 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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Dragg Wrote:I have read a good book on Chinese etymology and I also have what I believe to be a good kanji etymology reference book as well (Henshall). So don't make it sound like what you are saying...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 11:08 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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playadom Wrote:So I can find some of these nursery rhymes in the books? Do you have any examples? Just pick up any Japanese grade school textbook. Start with Grade 1, work upwards. Lots of examples. ...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 11:01 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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yukamina Wrote:Phonetic markers are great(it's true, I look at them first when reading kanji words), but they aren't very reliable. The statistical analysis done by de Francis et al suggests they are ...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 10:55 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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Dragg Wrote:@ christine You still haven't really proven anything That's true. It is very hard to explain the difference between blue and green to someone who is colour blind.
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 10:44 pm
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playadom Wrote:Well, I plan on forgetting all these useless keywords. I already know a lot of Japanese, and am just using Heisig to assign arbitrary placeholders for all the kanji. For future use. I t...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 10:42 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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Dragg Wrote:Unless your assessment is different, I don't see what the objection is. I strongly encourage you to read the books I mentioned. Otherwise, it's like trying to explain the difference betwee...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 10:20 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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By the way, for those that have a linguistic bent and truly interested in understanding some of the flaws in Heisig's method, I would recommend reading a recent research article entitled "The Role of ...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 10:10 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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Dragg Wrote:@christine How are primitives so much different than radicals? As far as as I have seen, they exactly the same almost all the time. I don't see how this is even close to a flaw, let alon...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 9:42 pm
    Thread: Who remembers the person that said he doesn't use heisigs method
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As an alternative point of view, I used the Heisig method as well as this site briefly (for a few weeks last year) but gave it up because I didn't like the method. At that time, I knew virtually zero...
Christine_Tham General discussion 143 23,355 2008-06-20, 7:49 pm
    Thread: My article on Tonari no Totoro
Post: My article on Tonari no Totoro

Recently I wrote an article analyzing this film. For the benefit of some friends I have made through this forum in the past, here's a link to the article. I hope you will enjoy reading it as much as ...
Christine_Tham General discussion 12 4,042 2008-06-20, 7:06 pm
    Thread: Kanji "stories" based on etymology (Grades 1-6)
Post: Kanji "stories" based on etymology (Grades 1-6)

For the last few months, I have been collecting stories for Grades 1-6 kanji from various sources. I am hoping to have a story for each of the Grade 1-6 Kanji by the end of the year - I'm currently ab...
Christine_Tham Learning resources 3 2,383 2007-11-20, 4:27 am
    Thread: Kanji cross reference list for Grades 1-6
Post: Kanji cross reference list for Grades 1-6

I have created a cross reference for all the Kanji in Grades 1-6 to various indices (including Heisig frame numbers) and textbooks that I am currently using. Just in case anyone else will find this i...
Christine_Tham Learning resources 0 1,332 2007-11-20, 4:23 am
    Thread: continuation of Christine's discussion - phonetic components
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As of today, I have finally decided to give up reviewing the kanji on this site (so far, I have tried my best to keep up the reviews on this site whilst doing everything else). Therefore, in accordan...
Christine_Tham General discussion 68 16,260 2007-09-06, 4:55 pm
    Thread: continuation of Christine's discussion - phonetic components
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mspertus Wrote:Heisig says again and again that the key insight of his system is that there is no reason to believe that the right way to teach kanji to Japanese schoolchildren living in Japan is the ...
Christine_Tham General discussion 68 16,260 2007-09-05, 1:41 am
    Thread: continuation of Christine's discussion - phonetic components
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synewave Wrote:Christine_Tham Wrote:the technique cannot be applied to kunyomi or any irregular reading so right off this would be an incorrect use of the technique. I think this is what JimmySeal is ...
Christine_Tham General discussion 68 16,260 2007-09-05, 1:29 am
    Thread: continuation of Christine's discussion - phonetic components
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synewave Wrote:My understanding is that 革 is indeed a valid bushu (かわへん). The kanji 靴 does have the onyomi reading か however the kunyomi is used in JimmySeal's example above. Two points: - the techniq...
Christine_Tham General discussion 68 16,260 2007-09-05, 12:00 am
    Thread: continuation of Christine's discussion - phonetic components
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JimmySeal Wrote:I'm trying, but it's hard when most of your posts are the length of encyclopedia articles. If you don't want to actually take the trouble to read what I post, then why bother replying?...
Christine_Tham General discussion 68 16,260 2007-09-04, 11:53 pm
    Thread: continuation of Christine's discussion - phonetic components
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JimmySeal Wrote:Before you were saying that if you learn the 1000 most useful characters, then you know most of the kun-yomi. That's not the same as saying that you only need to know 1000 characters ...
Christine_Tham General discussion 68 16,260 2007-09-04, 10:00 pm
    Thread: continuation of Christine's discussion - phonetic components
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yukamina Wrote:Okay, how do you know what the phonetic marker is? Not every kanji has one(assuming I understand what you mean by phonetic marker). For 務, how would you know the marker is 矛 and not 力(a...
Christine_Tham General discussion 68 16,260 2007-09-04, 9:54 pm
    Thread: continuation of Christine's discussion - phonetic components
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JimmySeal Wrote:Ok, let me throw out some actual statistics to give some solidity to this rampant speculation: Number of Joyo kanji with kun-yomi: 1081 Number of kanji needed to read: 95% of a newspa...
Christine_Tham General discussion 68 16,260 2007-09-04, 9:45 pm