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    Thread: Tori-kun's holiday questions thread
Post: Tori-kun's holiday questions thread

pm215 Wrote:Tori-kun Wrote:1) Humble Expressions, 2) Honorific ones and 3) Teineigo You're leaping all over the place here; it kind of feels to me like you'd do better to focus on one thing rather tha...
bobbyj The Japanese language 67 18,208 2011-04-24, 1:50 pm
    Thread: Tori-kun's holiday questions thread
Post: Tori-kun's holiday questions thread

Yikes. Keigo gets really complicated really fast. This is my last post before bed: 1) Humble expressions are used to refer to yourself or a member of your in group, and to present yourself as lower t...
bobbyj The Japanese language 67 18,208 2011-04-24, 1:46 pm
    Thread: Tori-kun's holiday questions thread
Post: Tori-kun's holiday questions thread

@yudantaiteki Yeah, I can see what you mean. Although consider the fact that they contrast it with "人間などの意志(意図)が含まれていない場合、あるいは、自然力の影響などでできごとが起こった場合に用いられる。" ている either occurred naturally without human ...
bobbyj The Japanese language 67 18,208 2011-04-24, 1:24 pm
    Thread: Tori-kun's holiday questions thread
Post: Tori-kun's holiday questions thread

yudantaiteki Wrote:I don't know if you need to complicate -te aru by adding in things about intentions; it just represents a completed action that's done by someone you don't state (either because it'...
bobbyj The Japanese language 67 18,208 2011-04-24, 12:45 pm
    Thread: Tori-kun's holiday questions thread
Post: Tori-kun's holiday questions thread

Posted this in reply to you on my blog, but posting it here too, just in case. 頑張って! It seems like you've got good explanations for everything but the difference between ている and てある。 I'll take a crac...
bobbyj The Japanese language 67 18,208 2011-04-24, 11:45 am