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A beginner's dilemma - TheAvenger - 2012-09-26
I've posted a topic on this before, but since I'm completely lost I'm afraid I have to post another one. I've finished RTK 1, and I've been going through the forum to find what to do next. After a lot of searching I finally stumbled upon Nukemarine's guide. This is what it says for beginners :
1. Hiragana and Katakana (done)
2. RTK (done)
3. Tae Kim clozed delete deck
4. Core2k
Now my main question is this - he doesn't elaborate on what order you should do this in. Is Tae Kim supposed to be done before Core2k, after Core2k or along with it? In addition, I tried using the Tae Kim deck for the first basic grammar chapter and I have absolutely no clue HOW to review it. With RTK it was quite straightforward - you have a key word and you should write out the kanji based on that. However with the Tae Kim deck I had no idea what to do. To add to my misery, the clozed delete thing completely baffled me, just what are you supposed to type in that input box? The same applies to Core2k, how are you supposed to start with the deck without any sort of learning beforehand? In RTK, you learnt a certain number of kanji from the book and then added them to Anki, but I have no clue what to do with Tae Kim and Core2k.
So to avoid this becoming a wall of text, all I want is an 'Idiot's Guide' on how to use Anki for Tae Kim and Core2k. It would also be helpful to know how to study Tae Kim. Do you read through all the 8 beginners chapters and then review, or do you read one chapter a day and add the relevant flashcards to Anki? I'm sorry if these questions seem trivial to some of you, but as an absolute beginner I want to make sure that I'm progressing with my Japanese studies in a proper manner.
A beginner's dilemma - Zarxrax - 2012-09-26
For tae Kim, this is a grammar guide and you will need to use it (or another textbook) for learning all the basic Japanese grammar. I personally don't think anki is the best way to go about this. For the most basic grammar, you really need to develop an intimate understanding of it, and be able to have immediate understanding when you see it in use. This requires study and repeated drills. Anki is more about getting stuff into your long term memory. It is not designed to help you learn things well, it is designed to let you barely remember things with the least effort.
I would say to read through tae Kim one chapter at a time. Read it several times. Make sure you understand, and don't rush through it. If it has exercises, do them. When you learn new grammar, try making up your own sentences with it.
This stuff will appear in Japanese all the time, so you shouldn't need anki to remember it. You will remember it because you see it over and over.
Core 2k will help you learn vocabulary. In order to understand the example sentences, you will need to already know some basic grammar.
A beginner's dilemma - buonaparte - 2012-09-26
I would concentrate on grammar, listening, and pronunciation.
Some learner-friendly resources
GRAMMAR STUFF
This is for abslolute beginners, plain English, line-by-line audio, kanji-kana-English.doc + links to offline audio
http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/JCP/
J 00 Hugo Japanese In Three Months.7z
enhanced edition
Visualizing Japanese Grammar
http://www.gwu.edu/~eall/vjg/vjghomepage/vjghome.htm on-line
http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/JCP/ off line, enhanced edition
ADDED: line-by-line playlists, parallel J-Eng .doc
!GrVJGr.7z.001
!GrVJGr.7z.002
!GrVJGr.7z.003
Particles
http://www.colby.edu/personal/t/tkprindl/particles/Index.html on-line
http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/JCP/ off line
!Particles colby.edu
ADDED: line-by-line playlists, parallel J-Eng .doc
More grammar stuff here:
http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/JCP/
On-line:
JapanesePod Grammar Bank
They've decided to make it freely available. You have to register to get your free lifetime account to be able to use it.
Then they'll be pestering you with their silly e-mails, so don't forget to create an e-mail account you won't be using for something else.
Here's the list of 401 items:
http://www.japanesepod101.com/learningcenter/reference/grammarbank&filter=jlpt&value=
Explanations in plain English, plenty of example sentences, the mojority of them with audio.
No audio
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar Tae Kim
http://grammar.nihongoresources.com/doku.php The Nihongoresources Book
http://www.jgram.org/pages/viewList.php
In Japanese
http://www.geocities.jp/niwasaburoo/index.html