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"Learning vocab before SRSing them"? - PkmnTrainerAbram - 2012-09-16
I started using Anki again and following advice from the threads already up, I have been speeding through them, doing 10 min intervals about...twice a day. I have Core 1 and 2 at learning 5-7 new words a day in each deck and am doing about 75-95 cards or so a day in total.
Most of these words I already knew when I went through the first 5 steps, so they are familiar, but when I come across new vocab, is it recommended to learn them before SRSing them, so I'm hearing. I suppose I could write out all the words in a deck and draw a picture or...whatever to connect them to a concept loosely before I formally go on to SRS the vocab in new decks. But what I'm asking is this:
How do the majority of people working with Anki learn the new words before reviewing them? Do you just hit the Again/1 button when you first come across them and after a few days mark them as 2/Good? I've been doing this for vocab that has given me trouble in the past and the seem to be sticking.
I am spending most of my time listening to shows on Youtube from Tokyo MX news and listening to mp3s from The Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook and random news programs in mp3 form. I spend say, 2-3 hours listening a day and about 20 mins total reviewing each day. If that information matters. I'm not even using Anki as the main source of learning, I have a comfortable if slow schedule using a textbook for that. What happened last time was I was spending 40 min sessons in Anki only doing 20 cards or so. I see now I was doing it wrong them and well, would get easily burned out.
"Learning vocab before SRSing them"? - gaiaslastlaugh - 2012-09-16
PkmnTrainerAbram Wrote:Most of these words I already knew when I went through the first 5 steps, so they are familiar, but when I come across new vocab, is it recommended to learn them before SRSing them, so I'm hearing.Yeah...I don't do that. I add terms to Anki when I run across them, either using Rikaisama or from stumbling across them in my subs2srs 聞き取り deck. When these terms come up in Anki, if I haven't learned it from context, I fail it repeatedly until I "get" it. I end up with a lot of failures like that, but it works for me.
If I followed the "learn before you add" rule, I would quickly run out of new cards.
"Learning vocab before SRSing them"? - PkmnTrainerAbram - 2012-09-16
So I would be better off just doing a quick google/sentence search of all the words in a course, mining for simple native sentences and then tackle them via the Core decks?
I'm reading the audio stories on this forum, but if I just wait for the words to appear in random stories, I feel it wouldn't be as effecient as actively seeking them out.
"Learning vocab before SRSing them"? - gaiaslastlaugh - 2012-09-16
PkmnTrainerAbram Wrote:So I would be better off just doing a quick google/sentence search of all the words in a course, mining for simple native sentences and then tackle them via the Core decks?Well, I suck at giving advice.
I'm reading the audio stories on this forum, but if I just wait for the words to appear in random stories, I feel it wouldn't be as effecient as actively seeking them out.
I can only tell you what I do, which is add new words as I run across them in context. That's easier to do with a custom deck than with a pre-built deck like Core, obviously. In general, I think you're better off studying words as you run across them in context rather then mining ahead.
"Learning vocab before SRSing them"? - juniperpansy - 2012-09-17
I don't learn new vocabs before SRSing them. I feel its not ideal.. but I'm not sure how to incorporate it...
but from what I hear Anki 2.0 is supposed to have a new kearning mode so hopefully this will solve the problem for us.