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Making up for the short comings of Kanji Odyssey - Lavasioth - 2012-07-31
I really liked Kanji Odyssey 2001 mining the example sentences and quickly learning the readings, but I was quickly disappointed realizing they only covered the 1100 first and not the 900 next with sentences. Now what? I still want the readings for these 900 as well, how did others in the same situation handle it?
Mine sentences from elsewhere? If so, from where?
Making up for the short comings of Kanji Odyssey - Zarxrax - 2012-07-31
Well, "back in the day" when everyone was doing Kanji Odyssey, I remember several people mentioning Kanji In Context as well. If I remember correctly it has 1 example sentence for every kanji.
But at this point you might just be better off mining from a native source like books and stuff.
Making up for the short comings of Kanji Odyssey - Nagareboshi - 2012-07-31
I worked through KO Levels 1 and 2 myself, considered doing Level 3 also, but without the example sentences and more importantly Audio, I left off there. You can either choose to learn the additional words, and use a speech synthesizer, or you learn from context. Media, News, Podcasts, books, Manga whatever is accesible to you at the moment.
You can also go and work through one of the Core decks with Audio. There are enough new words in the decks that it is worth the effort. Just see to it that you put more emphasis on original content, rather than relying on Anki too much, else it will get you nowhere.
Making up for the short comings of Kanji Odyssey - erlog - 2012-07-31
Nagareboshi Wrote:You can also go and work through one of the Core decks with Audio. There are enough new words in the decks that it is worth the effort. Just see to it that you put more emphasis on original content, rather than relying on Anki too much, else it will get you nowhere.I did Kanji in Context, and I've recently been evaluating Core 6000. I like the Core sentence pack a lot better. The way the kanji are used there is more natural to how you would see them in a novel. I think KiC kind of held back from throwing too many kanji or readings in.
KiC was a great primer, but it left me with holes I am unhappy with. I'm pretty sure I'm going to start plugging those holes with more reading practice and Core 6000.
Making up for the short comings of Kanji Odyssey - Nagareboshi - 2012-07-31
erlog Wrote:I tried myself at KiC first, before buying KO, mainly because KiC was too difficult at the time. Not sure whether or not to work through the workbooks, not right now but some way during learning for N1, until december next year. And I will mainly do it for writing practice, handwriting, and with both N1 and Kanji Kentei in mind.Nagareboshi Wrote:You can also go and work through one of the Core decks with Audio. There are enough new words in the decks that it is worth the effort. Just see to it that you put more emphasis on original content, rather than relying on Anki too much, else it will get you nowhere.I did Kanji in Context, and I've recently been evaluating Core 6000. I like the Core sentence pack a lot better. The way the kanji are used there is more natural to how you would see them in a novel. I think KiC kind of held back from throwing too many kanji or readings in.
KiC was a great primer, but it left me with holes I am unhappy with. I'm pretty sure I'm going to start plugging those holes with more reading practice and Core 6000.
Doing both Core2k / 6k was worth it, but I did the deck without audio, with no gain as far as the 2k part goes. I also started the core10k v4 deck, for the sake of having audio, but the speaking speed was way too slow for my taste. I stopped there, and left off at around 2700 seen cards, no gain for one thing, and too many reviews at a pace of 100 new per day. But otherwise a great deck as well.
Making up for the short comings of Kanji Odyssey - Hashiriya - 2012-07-31
if you want more example sentences, just get them from the kenkyusha dictionary. it has TONS of example sentences.
Making up for the short comings of Kanji Odyssey - kainzero - 2012-07-31
I did KO2001 parts 1 and 2 into JLPT N2 Vocab and reading stuff online that I could understand.
Instead of N2 Vocab you might wanna try N2 Reading. You should be at a level where you're trying to build comprehension, and you should be at a level where you can read sentences and only need to understand 1 or 2 new words (i+1) so it should be fairly easy to pick it up.
Making up for the short comings of Kanji Odyssey - Lavasioth - 2012-08-01
Oh yeah and on a quick note. I do work through the core 6000 deck, I've just taken a break from it due to after passing the first 2000 the vocabulary becomes suddenly much steeper unfortunately.
I agree about the reading part, but it was also because I wanted to read I just wanted to rush through the most common readings of the kanji because reading manga, etc that uses less kanji that arent from that 1100 list and has no furigana becomes too much a pain for me to look up. For now, I still have 300 entries left but, ill think about it. Maybe ill try mining sentences from different sources, or just start mining words from manga which uses these readings.