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A funny Japanese chilli product name + grammar parsing. - qwertyytrewq - 2012-02-05
I just found out about this now, had a chuckle, and had to share it.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/桃屋-辛そうで辛くない少し辛いラー油-110g/dp/B003IPZK90/
辛そうで辛くない少し辛いラー油
The intended meaning is: "Looks/appears/seems spicy but not spicy, well a little bit spicy chilli oil". Yes, that's the product name if you walk into a supermarket and ask for it. "Could you please tell me where I can find the Spicy-looking but not spicy, well a little bit spicy chilli oil?"
Anyway, grammar question: I can't figure out what the usage of で here is. Actually, it's probably the te-form (or in this case, the de-form) of そうだ but if so, then where does the "but/however" implication come in? I thought te-forms were just a sequence of states?
Or is it just context: I see 辛そうで and then I see 辛くない so I should naturally think "there appears to be a contradiction, therefore I should translate de as "but" instead of "and" similar to と and if/when". Why not just use が or けど instead?
A funny Japanese chilli product name + grammar parsing. - temporary - 2012-02-05
It means "Spicy while not spicy, a little bit spicy raayu", where the "while" corresponds to the te-form, indicating that the sauce is in these two states at the same time.
A funny Japanese chilli product name + grammar parsing. - JimmySeal - 2012-02-05
The で here is the -て form of the copula. Just like saying おいしくて素晴らしいレシピ, though I guess X-そうでX-くない is a bit of a set phrase for saying something seems a certain way but actually isn't.
A funny Japanese chilli product name + grammar parsing. - cjon256 - 2012-02-05
Quote:もしかしたらhttp://mudainodqnment.blog35.fc2.com/blog-entry-1286.html
からそうで からくない すこしつらい らーゆ
かもしれないな
CJ