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Doing the core 6k backwards - semperanimus - 2012-02-01
the smart.fm core 6k learned backwards.
this would ensure that we stick to our studies and that our learning curve wouldn't increase but actually decrease so it would become more productive as we went.
idk just thinking this might be best for me phsycilogicaly.
Doing the core 6k backwards - vix86 - 2012-02-01
If you think this will help you then by all means, give it a shot. But this just sounds ridiculous to me.
The learning curve would be ridiculously steep because if you don't already have a large vocabulary the sentences would be brutal. With nukemarine's sorted deck you learn in a N+1 from start to finish. What you are suggesting is people try and learn sentences in a N+4 or N+5 fashion which is absurd. Not only that, many of the words at the end of the deck are not particularly useful. Most of the words that people pick up from the start of core6k they can immediately start using everywhere and will be pertinent.
What you have suggested is like telling an English learner than they shouldn't start with words like he/his/her/I/you/cat/dog/tree/house/girl/boy but instead, spectacular/renegade/extrapolation/abhorent/capistrate.
Doing the core 6k backwards - nadiatims - 2012-02-01
hardly. Those words you listed would fall well out of any first 6000 list. 6k is nothing.
Doing the core 6k backwards - Tefhel - 2012-02-01
If it sounds good for you, then go for it.
Personally, I'm doing my core 6k in Heisig order - for no reason in particular. The order of Core 6k to me always seemed fairly arbitrary anyway - I mean who's to say that 'to build' is any more of a useful word than 'to invite'. All of the words are basic - there is certainly nothing anywhere near the region of 'capistrate'.
[For me though, Core 6k is nowhere even remotely near my first experience of Japanese vocabulary. So...]
Doing the core 6k backwards - vix86 - 2012-02-01
Point is that words like 優秀・金融・反射 are not as useful to a beginner that doesn't even have words like これ・それ・あれ・ねこ・犬・一・二・三・四・五・店・白・赤 and so on. The original iKnow order worked from these easier cards forward. Somewhere in the middle of the deck you could say the order becomes fairly arbitrary, but at the beginning? I don't think so. But even at the middle and toward the end, I think there is still a very strong argument for organizing the cards in a N+1 setup.
Doing the core 6k backwards - semperanimus - 2012-02-01
well, I have already been studying for 6 months through japanesepod101.com
but the words aren't organized the same way so when I look at the iknow chart
there are 6000 words but in the first 2000 I probably know 35% of those so I guess this might be better for me because I didn't start with core 6k. idk.