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Your hardest card(s) - vix86 - 2012-01-15
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*Directions*
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1) Open up one of your Anki decks. (RTK/Vocab/Sent./etc)
2) Open card browser (CTRL+F)
3) Select 'Ease' Using the far right drop down box.
4) Sort the 'Ease' column
5) Find the lowest number in there
This is your hardest card(s). Post them!
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Core6k deck. Ease of 1.30
改革・実施・貿易
Your hardest card(s) - ta12121 - 2012-01-15
小波[さざなみ]
北極圏
夫婦
This is my updated vocab deck which only contains 3000+ vocab words at the moment
Your hardest card(s) - jettyke - 2012-01-15
あの 国[くに]とは 国交[こっこう]がない。
Your hardest card(s) - JimmySeal - 2012-01-15
I don't know how the ease value is calculated, but I only use 1 and 2, with the occasional 3, so I have a 2853-way tie for lowest ease at 1.30.
Your hardest card(s) - vix86 - 2012-01-15
JimmySeal Wrote:I don't know how the ease value is calculated, but I only use 1 and 2, with the occasional 3, so I have a 2853-way tie for lowest ease at 1.30.Using 2 will always tell Anki to reschedule the card with the lowest interval and also mark it very conservatively with ease. 2 will never really "grow" the ease and interval that much, where as 3 and 4 will grow both over time. This is why so many of your cards are 1.30. You should really be using 3 the most, 2 now and then, and 4 for your really easy cards. Otherwise you're not really effectively making use of the algorithm and reducing productivity. You probably are studying cards way more often than you need to be when you could/should be spending more time adding new material to your decks.
Your hardest card(s) - netsplitter - 2012-01-15
Another good metric might be sorting by reps and finding which ones you are failing the most.
Your hardest card(s) - Daichi - 2012-01-15
JimmySeal Wrote:I don't know how the ease value is calculated, but I only use 1 and 2, with the occasional 3, so I have a 2853-way tie for lowest ease at 1.30.Exactly what vix86 said above.
It's actually better to try to grade using the full range of the four grades for the reasons he lists.
It's much better to try to center your grades on 3, I believe the a reason why they renamed 3 to be called "Easy" after a certain anki update, was to encourage people to use it more.
Anyway, in my Anime sentence deck, my lowest ease @ 1.46 is a surprisingly easy looking sentence. XD
何[なん]かあったのか？
Probably from when I was trying to learn the difference between なん and なに. ^^; Though, I'm still not sure if I have it completely figured out yet.
Your hardest card(s) - crayonmaster - 2012-01-15
My lowest cards (1.53) are 祝日 and 絞る. I just noticed that they're some of my oldest cards as well. I wonder why I struggle with them...
Not surprisingly, my highest card at 2.99 is へそ.
Your hardest card(s) - JimmySeal - 2012-01-15
Yeah, I realize that, but I figure it's better to play it on the safe side than have even more cards getting failed and have to start repping them from scratch again.
At any rate, in terms of lapses, which might be a better metric than reps, my worst three are:
昆 の部首 answer: 日
高材し_そ_ answer: 疾足
製鋼所 answer: せいこうしょ
Your hardest card(s) - Fillanzea - 2012-01-15
I tend to be more likely to fail a card than mark it hard, so these are all in my kanji deck between 2.05 and 2.13.
慨, which I keep mixing up with 概 and 憾
慎
妨, which I keep mixing up with 防
汐
惟
捧
Your hardest card(s) - SomeCallMeChris - 2012-01-15
その 番組[ばんぐみ]は 台本[だいほん]なしだ
Hnnnh. I guess this card is still 'difficult' because before it was a sentence it was the word 台本 by itself, and I confused it for 台詞（せりふ） a few times. I certainly wouldn't consider it a hard card, an easy one if anything. (Especially now that it has a sentence.)
I'm not convinced of the value of this metric for anything other than scheduling. 台詞 was the word I kept getting wrong because I'd keep on incorrectly reading it だいし for the longest time... this one just got the fallout from that when I was being hasty.
My highest number of lapses (16!) is 鯰江[なまずえ] 規雄[のりお] which makes more sense. Name readings are pretty arbitrary and hard to make them stick.
Your hardest card(s) - zigmonty - 2012-01-15
For my vocab deck:
Hardest: 全盛 (although there is a 40-way tie at that ease, 1.3)
Easiest: 一月
Lol.
Your hardest card(s) - howtwosavealif3 - 2012-01-15
I have a bunch of 1.3 a couple are
つけやきば
２ その場をしのぐために、知識や技術などを一時の間に合わせに習い覚えること。にわかじこみ
そして３０日で何かが弾けるようになったとしても
所詮付け焼刃に過ぎません。
ピアノマスターと呼ぶにはとても言い難いものでしょう。
つけ‐やきば【付（け）焼（き）刃】
１ 切れない刀にはがねの焼き刃をつけ足したもの。見た目は切れそうに見えるが、実際はもろくて切れない。
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~渡辺の思う壷だ。
嵩に懸かって 俺の責任を追及してくる
(かさ)
１ 優勢に乗じて攻めかかる。「―・って攻撃する」
２ 優位の地位・立場をいいことにして相手を威圧する。「―・って命令する」
◆「笠に着る」との混同で、「笠に懸かる」と書くのは誤り。
Your hardest card(s) - Skuware - 2012-01-15
Hm, from my RtK deck.
Pleasure: 愉 at 1.80
Thick: 厚 at 1.80
Accept: 受 1.85
For some odd reason I really have difficulty remembering these ones.
Your hardest card(s) - vix86 - 2012-01-15
JimmySeal Wrote:Yeah, I realize that, but I figure it's better to play it on the safe side than have even more cards getting failed and have to start repping them from scratch again.Crap turns out I didn't post my reply I thought I had.
Its true that when you fail a card the interval resets however the Ease on the card does not. Fails cause the ease to decrease but not reset back to some lower level.
The ease on a card determines how the interval is changed. Cards with say a 1.3 ease will result in having intervals that increase much more slowly, while a 2.4 ease card might have intervals that increase more quickly.
Example:
You add and start reviewing a new card, 植物. When you first start reviewing it's pretty easy and you consistently pass it with a 3 or 4. Eventually the interval reaches a point where its interval is 4-8 months. 5.5 months later you run in the card again, but can't recall it and you fail it. The interval resets back to 'days.' However now the ease is 2.0 so maybe now it only takes 3-4 reviews with 3's to get it back to scheduling in the 'months' range. While a card with an ease of 1.3 might require 7-8 reviews to reach the same point again. The algorithm that Anki uses takes into account that the card was easy for you to remember at first and suspects that even though you failed it, you will likely re-remember it just as easy. So as a result you won't be wasting your time on a card that only needs a handful of reviews to recall. Because of this point as well, you also aren't likely to suddenly end up with a clumping of cards to review like you seem to think. The only clumping that is going to occur is for Young cards. I suspect you get way more clumping with your method than if you actually graded using the full spectrum. In addition, when you allow the algorithm to work like its suppose to, sometimes when you fail mature card with a high ease, the algorithm won't actually entirely erase the interval like you think it does. This is why on some cards that you end up failing sometimes the button that should be "Hard" actually reads something like "Good" (i forget what it was). This is because the card was mature, and by default will push the card back out further instead of resetting back to something like 3-8 hours.
When you fail a card the ease slightly decreases but when you only pass cards at a 2, the ease doesn't really increase. The ease of a card only increases with 3 and 4 and this is why you have 2000+ cards with a 1.3 (the lowest ease possible) because through constant failures and constant 2's they have never grown. Unless your material is so critical that you can't stand to forget some of it, then I can't understand why you wouldn't want to spread some stuff out. Anki's algorithm runs on the assumption that you will forget about 10% of your mature cards. If this number is below it then you are grading yourself too liberally, if its too high (98% correct on mature) then you are grading way too conservative and increasing your time reviewing.
Your more than welcome to continue reviewing like you do, but I just think you could improve your productivity and spend your time doing other stuff, because with a reviewing system like yours you must be studying cards way more than need be.
Its okay to forget stuff!
Your hardest card(s) - Inny Jan - 2012-01-15
... not to mention that once you get to interact with native content, the repetitions will happen involuntarily outside of SRS. At which point the reps of those involuntarily encountered items will become redundant. That's not to say that you can delete those cards - they will quickly get they interval long enough to be negligible for your burden.
Your hardest card(s) - jonuhey - 2012-01-16
This deck is a mix of decks that I have that includes Core6k, JLPT 3-5 and a Soumatome Goi N3 deck. It also contain all words that I added over time from games, sites and the soumatome N2 books that I am studying at this moment, for a total of around 7k entries (thou I have all new cards suspended and only undo it when I see/study them).
In Ease, the last ones are:
1.75
埋める
1.90
講堂
経過
協議
If I sort it by repetitions:
25 repetitions
絞る
20 repetitions
経過
If I sort by mistakes:
絞る 20/25
飾る 15/19
削除 11/15
整備 14/18
Hope that by posting them here will make it easier for me to remember them later during the next review
Your hardest card(s) - JimmySeal - 2012-01-17
vix86 Wrote:...Ok, you've got me convinced. I'll have a go at grading cards a bit more liberally. I have a tendency to almost never view anything as easy and have the fear that if I start marking things as easy, I'll wind up with a ton of failed cards and will be saddled with even more reviews than I have now. But I didn't know that failed cards retain some of their ease rating and can therefore get back out to longer intervals faster, so knowing that, I think I can be a bit more confident to give cards higher ratings. Thanks!
Your hardest card(s) - vix86 - 2012-01-17
JimmySeal Wrote:I've been trumpeting this suggestion everywhere I can.vix86 Wrote:...Ok, you've got me convinced. I'll have a go at grading cards a bit more liberally. I have a tendency to almost never view anything as easy and have the fear that if I start marking things as easy, I'll wind up with a ton of failed cards and will be saddled with even more reviews than I have now. But I didn't know that failed cards retain some of their ease rating and can therefore get back out to longer intervals faster, so knowing that, I think I can be a bit more confident to give cards higher ratings. Thanks!
Go into your Settings > Preference on Anki and uncheck "Show next time before answers." By default this on in Anki, this lets you see what the next interval is for each answer button. I had this on for years in Anki and was constantly going "3: 4-5 months?! Holy shit, I'll defiantly forget it by then! *2* (3weeks-1month)" regardless of how easy I recalled the card. I don't know if this is you or not, but after I unchecked that option and started using it for a few months I realize how much faster my reviews got because I don't worry about interval spread now as much I let Anki figure it out. So now I can blow through a 500card back log in 2 hours.
One additional thing I wanted to add. In my prior post I had talked about how Anki assumes you forget 10% of mature cards; this is known as the Forget Index (apparently). In the upcoming 2.0 version of Anki you will actually be able to specify your own forget index manually. This helps because maybe you have a deck where its paritcularly hard cards so you only get about 85% of the mature cards right. This is more than the default 10% forget so you could go in and say "15%" instead. This will then shift the algorithm somehow so that you review mature cards more often than prior. 2.0 Anki is going to have a ton of new features I'm pretty excited actually.
http://ankisrs.net/docs/dev/manual.html#_reviews (The mention about the forgetting index is in this section if you are interested)
Your hardest card(s) - zigmonty - 2012-01-17
vix86 Wrote:One additional thing I wanted to add. In my prior post I had talked about how Anki assumes you forget 10% of mature cards; this is known as the Forget Index (apparently).<Looks at vocab deck> Correct Mature: 90.1%
Works for me
Your hardest card(s) - Daichi - 2012-01-17
JimmySeal Wrote:Don't underestimate your brain, it can remember things longer then you think. As vix86 suggests, turn off the time interval displays for at least a while so you can get used to trusting the SRS algorithm.vix86 Wrote:...Ok, you've got me convinced. I'll have a go at grading cards a bit more liberally. I have a tendency to almost never view anything as easy and have the fear that if I start marking things as easy, I'll wind up with a ton of failed cards and will be saddled with even more reviews than I have now. But I didn't know that failed cards retain some of their ease rating and can therefore get back out to longer intervals faster, so knowing that, I think I can be a bit more confident to give cards higher ratings. Thanks!