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www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - imabi - 2011-10-17
Na, it'll be much more than Tae Kim once the entire project is done. Polishing is underway.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - bcrAn - 2011-10-17
When you coming to Japan?
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - imabi - 2011-10-17
When someone gives me a 片道航空券.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - vix86 - 2011-10-17
imabi Wrote:When someone gives me a 片道航空券.Better ask for a 往復航空券 or they'll turn you away at airline counter. Either that or get a non-tourist visa.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - imabi - 2011-10-17
True true. Need visa first. What was I thinking.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - captal - 2011-10-17
dyslexicporn Wrote:imabi, don't listen to all of these haters nitpicking every detail of your site. You got this far didn't you? You've already accomplished more than most on this forum, congrats. Who cares if there's a few mistakes you probably already know it anyways. Don't get discouraged by all the haters on this forum. Keep up the good work.Totally agreed- you are definitely kicking ass to start in 8th grade and be this good in 4-5 years. How many of us took four years of language in high school and don't remember anything aside from the days of the week? I don't remember anything from 8th grade aside from watching TV and reading books.
Don't be discouraged, but don't ignore all of what is being said just because it's said harshly.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - captal - 2011-10-17
zachandhobbes Wrote:imabi, you don't need to be so defensive.(good advice, etc... aside from it being parent's pocketbook
...
)There is a reason editors and proof-readers exist- because they're worth it.
suffah Wrote:You may also contact me by e-mailing me at imabimaster@gmail.com.I'm a bi master? How about imabi@gmail.com?
You may also email me at imabimaster@gmail.com.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - ta12121 - 2011-10-17
imabi Wrote:Currently I have a headache and can't think straight. All I know is that Japanese is awesome. That pretty much sums up everything.that's what got me started on Japanese(it was cool and interesting!)
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - Thora - 2011-10-17
Hmmm. Maybe Nest0r is up to something? That sea of blue links in the TOC feels Nest0r-esque. The occasionally unclear language. i am bi fits their genderqueer angle. Learning Japanese in one year in 8th grade (including the site's contents in 6 months) is more internet legend making. Aiming for $110K in donations. It's all some kind of post modern stunt? ;p
(edit: Reminiscing I suppose. I miss Nest0r)
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - imabi - 2011-10-18
Your dates are wrong. Yes, I started learning in 8th grade. But, I didn't start making IMABI until 10th grade and it's been a little over 2 years since then.
So, you're off by a good 3 years--remember, making IMABI helped a lot--and you're off a good 1.4 years for how long it has taken to make it thus far.
I can't change my email because I've already filled out college forms with it. Besides, I really didn't want it to have just the name of the website in it.
And, what is so wrong with bi people?
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - JimmySeal - 2011-10-18
thurd Wrote:There are TONS of other more polished, better established (older people with academic credentials already, not planned) more in depth resources both free and not. What's unique about this one is that it's created by a 17 year old kid who didn't even master his own native language to a sufficient degree but yet tries to lecture others on intricacies of Japanese grammar.Well it already appears to have a lot more content than Tae Kim, and a lot of people on this forum talk about his lessons like they're the best thing ever. Wouldn't that suggest that there is a use for this site, if s/he manages to clean it up?
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - imabi - 2011-10-18
He, thank you. I think I've put in a lot of work. It'll just take much more time for the job to be completely done. Give me another year or so.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - Omoishinji - 2011-10-18
suffah Wrote:That is interesting. The exchange of comments wasn't even between us, nor where you involved. Honestly, don't worry too much about me.Omoishinji Wrote:But I did proofread my comment.imabi Wrote:Master my native language? What the **** does that mean? So, I just got a 5 on the AP English language test by being in the room?There are times that people just don't take the time to proof read their comment before posting it. They just don't think how it makes them look. There are several reason why they might of written that. Imabi, for now don't worry too much about it.
Let me know how it makes me look. Personally, I think it makes me look like a straight shooter.
Again, here you go on the super defensive, cursing and getting angry when I tried to give you some criticism. You published yourself on the Interwebs so guess what? We can criticize your work in public, whether you like it or not.
*(, nor) ... added
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - Omoishinji - 2011-10-18
vix86 Wrote:I think they want to get a work visa. There will be a lot more resources for teaching and learning Japanese when they do come.imabi Wrote:When someone gives me a 片道航空券.Better ask for a 往復航空券 or they'll turn you away at airline counter. Either that or get a non-tourist visa.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - captal - 2011-10-18
You're surprised that no one wants to spend hours and hours of their own time to go through and proof read your site?
It would take me all day just to point out and correct all the errors you made in the posts in this thread, so don't be surprised that strangers on the internet aren't jumping up and down in excitement to come and help edit your site. You'd be better off recruiting friends/teachers.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - imabi - 2011-10-18
No, just a lesson or two. If more people helped, less work for all except me. Besides, who really cares about how they type on a forum? At least complain about the actual content of the lessons rather than my skills at internet vernacular.
At least it would take you all day instead of all week to go through the site. It would be nice if people were excited to do something. It'd give them something to do. Plus, the help would further help the Japanese language learning community. So, nothing would be in vain.
Since there was concern about the honorifics lessons, I have made sure to the best of my abilities that what I was trying to say was worded correctly and presented properly. Some of the misunderstanding could have easily been caused due to the wording. I have added around 5 pages of examples to help prevent further problems. If any of you still do not like any of the sentences, I can only just say sorry and that the sentences were based off of authentic documents to prevent my human error.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - imabi - 2011-11-20
So, is anyone going to give any more advice? I've done my best to address everyone's issues. So, hopefully the site has become a much more better place for learning Japanese. I would seriously love for people to help me build a nice forums community; I will be in need of moderators as well. Thanks in advance to anyone!
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - imabi - 2011-11-20
I really like this place just because people do indeed visit my site in droves. If I could get tons of people to keep visiting from here that would be great. Maybe once I get my own free time, I'll be able to get involved here. The last time y'all helped me I got almost 300 hits. Surely y'all can make it happen again. Perhaps daily?
If someone doesn't mind, I do want ideas on how to format the homepage, introduction, what is Imabi pages. Those are a few things that were highlighted last time, but no one really spelled out for me what exactly to do to make them better.
Does anyone think a Kanji of the Day would be good? If so, what level of difficultly should the choices reflect? For example, should I choose characters like 楡?
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - ta12121 - 2011-11-20
imabi Wrote:I really like this place just because people do indeed visit my site in droves. If I could get tons of people to keep visiting from here that would be great. Maybe once I get my own free time, I'll be able to get involved here. The last time y'all helped me I got almost 300 hits. Surely y'all can make it happen again. Perhaps daily?I'd say keep it within the common 2000 kanji if possible and provide context if possible? It's a good way to keep people interested but you have to think of ways for getting more people to view. I recommend you research marketing and how to use certain tools for increasing traffic. Since you want to make money from your site, your in the same boat as me(I'm planning on creating a site+blog in order to make some money). I'm still deciding if it will have Japanese as the main theme but I've come down to a few things that are key for success: you have to love what you are doing, you have be interested in it and you have to innovate. What makes your site different from the rest? Things like this. A lot of people sell stuff like e-books,guides and use social media as a way to attract huge traffic. I plan to use visually appealing ways to attract people( High Definition Videos+Pictures,etc). Using youtube as a tool can be helpful as well, if used right(remember, think about how you can make it different and what/how will you sell and where it will take you)
If someone doesn't mind, I do want ideas on how to format the homepage, introduction, what is Imabi pages. Those are a few things that were highlighted last time, but no one really spelled out for me what exactly to do to make them better.
Does anyone think a Kanji of the Day would be good? If so, what level of difficultly should the choices reflect? For example, should I choose characters like 楡?
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - imabi - 2011-11-20
It's oh so hard when you have a budget of 0 dollars and a family that is very non-supportive. I do already use blog posts to give teaching to a hand full of Kanji every now and then. I do think the Jouyou Kanji List would be a good pool for a solid year or two. Thanks for the advice.
I have set up a youtube account that has absolutely nothing on it for the moment. I'm trying to get the nerve to ask my principal to use a classroom to record lessons (which would be very beneficial because our schools have promethian boards).
Once I am done, I want it to be in textbook format. There are still many lessons I want to make as well as worksheets, quizzes, and tests to go along with them. It is a good thing that I'm only 18 and it's the best fun that I've ever had. By the time I'm 25 I'll have a big accomplishment on my hands.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - ta12121 - 2011-11-20
imabi Wrote:It's oh so hard when you have a budget of 0 dollars and a family that is very non-supportive. I do already use blog posts to give teaching to a hand full of Kanji every now and then. I do think the Jouyou Kanji List would be a good pool for a solid year or two. Thanks for the advice.Actually I was reading up online about a guy who started from spending only 9$ to registrar a domain name for his site. Also having a blog(your own one) doesn't cost that much per year but I know where your coming from. When I was in highschool, I was pretty much broke. Wasn't that long actually, that was 3-4 years back. So in terms of starting, it doesn't cost that much but having tools like a digital HD compact camera would help for youtube+visual aspect. It all depends on how you use it and what is your target market.
I have set up a youtube account that has absolutely nothing on it for the moment. I'm trying to get the nerve to ask my principal to use a classroom to record lessons (which would be very beneficial because our schools have promethian boards).
Once I am done, I want it to be in textbook format. There are still many lessons I want to make as well as worksheets, quizzes, and tests to go along with them. It is a good thing that I'm only 18 and it's the best fun that I've ever had. By the time I'm 25 I'll have a big accomplishment on my hands.
The guy that I was talking about makes money off of views+traffic+ads.He makes 1000/day on his blog and 40,000 per month on this website (it's a gaming site). I'd say providing a service is the way to go(or a product). Since your interested in learning Japanese like me, stick with providing some sort of service that would be beneficial. Searching up on what other people are doing is a good start.
Remember all these guys were just like you or me, they started from nothing. They didn't have the right knowledge and had no idea how to start. Over time they got far and are now making a lot of money online. I heard of another story about someone who is blogging and making a quite a lot of money (100 per day on his blog on average). He said that took him around 1-2 years to get there but he said it was worth it. I also heard of another story about a lady who is youtube and is making a lot per month(don't know the exact amount but it was enough for her to quick her full-time day job). What I love about her story is that, she was a nobody but is now someone who is known and making quite a lot.
What I'm trying to get at is, you can get far. Anyone can do it.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - Surreal - 2011-11-21
@tanumbers: Anyone who has a good deal of luck, is fortunate enough to come from circumstances that provide them with regular internet access, has been taught to read and write well in school/at home as well as how to use computers with some skill and doesn't have mental deficits or any other handicaps that make it impossible? Why yes, then it would be anyone.
Imabi, here's a sample error: "神は本当にある。” Gods aren't usually treated as a nonanimate object and if you google the sentence (using quotation marks to find instances where the whole string has been written, instead of just separate words from the sentence) you only get five results, of which IMABI is one. Generally, googling phrases will help you spot incorrect and/or unusual language usage.
Here's a sample English error: "The overall usage of the intransitive verb aru is to observe the existence of inanimate things in a pattern exceeding a given sense in both spatially and timely." I can't even comprehend what the last part is trying to say, but I can say for sure that instead of "spatially and timely", it should be "in both space and time".
This is from choosing a page at random and checking it out, I haven't been scouting the site for errors or anything. I would guess that this is why you don't get a lot of people going through the site and giving you advice on how to improve it - the errors are so abundant. If it was just a couple here and there, well one could simply use the site to review what one already knows and send you a thankful tip every once in a while, but as of now it's just too riddled with errors to be useful.
I hope you don't perceive this comment as aggressive; I really don't want to fight about something like this, and I do think that aiming for a good, free and comprehensive site for learning Japanese is commendable. So, good luck.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - pudding cat - 2011-11-21
I had a look at the first lesson. I agree with Surreal's point, considering the time it took me to go through one lesson and the number of lessons you have I wouldn't bother doing it again.
Having flicked through the first few lessons I feel like there's an information overload. You might have to spend a long time on each lesson which is not very motivating.
Things I noticed:
"ROMANIZATION: A revised version of Roomaji is used throughout IMABI."
This means nothing to a complete beginner who has never heard of romaji before. I'd either cut it out or provide a link to somewhere which explains different romanisation systems.
"Time: All sounds are spoken with the same amount of time."
Needs rephrasing. Explain about mora? Or use a simple explaination like sounds last for one beat/handclap etc.
"Elongation is repeating a vowel."
I think this could lead to confusion with some people saying お、お instead of おう.
"Spelling in Roomaji for this is is based on etymology."
Repetition of 'is'.
"1). "Ei" is traditionally pronounced "e-i"."
Do you really need 'traditionally' in this sentence? These are instructions for beginners, the less wordy the better.
"4). Apostrophes separate a long vowel from the same vowel if adjacent to it in Roomaji. For example, jo'ou (queen)."
As a beginner I wouldn't have understood what this means. You need to make the point that they are separated to show the difference between an elongated sound and two separate sounds, not just that they happen to be adjacent.
"っ An audible stop, it's only in Roomaji when at the end of words."
This sentence is a bit confusing, you could change it to "It is romanised as ~ if at the end of a word."
"4). In loanwords you may see additional combinations of consonants and vowelsnot described above. "
vowelsnot
"Chieki (blood)"
??
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - Jarvik7 - 2011-11-21
One think ta72489732164826482648726 should keep in mind is that you cannot trust blogger entrepreneurs who are selling their story to success (or otherwise earning money from their free site espousing it).
If they are really successful with their technique, they likely wouldn't be bothering with spreading the technique. If they are successful because of their blog on how to be successful, then it is a pyramid scheme.
They may also not be successful at all and simply making stuff up in an attempt to get money.
You don't see provably successful internet entrepreneurs (Facebook, Google, Digg, Reddit, etc etc) making blogs on how to copy their success. This is because they have better things to do, make enough money with their successful project, and don't want competition. Always consider motives.
www.imabijapaneselearningcenter.com - buonaparte - 2011-11-21
When I first came across your site a few months ago I thought it was by a non-native speaker of English.
AND my English is rather poor - a rusty tool of a clumsy dentist. But I'm not a native speaker and have never liked English very much.
Trifles do matter - I even hesitated to post the link to your site here.
After reading it was by a seventeen-year-old I was impressed and thought you should get support.