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JLPT 2006 - Christoph - 2007-02-07
I agree with you there erloq, I'm gonna prep for 2級 this december... but some people have pretty hectic lives and just can't find regular study hours, and when going from 2 up to 1 it's quite a big jump in difficulty, so I'm told.
JLPT 2006 - guppy - 2007-02-08
Congrats Yorkii, JimmySeal, Synewave!!!
I managed to pass 3Q. I really didn't think I knew that much. Now I'm faced with either trying to pass 2Q in Dec or taking a two years to do it. I'd really like to go for it but it seems like such a mountain to climb. Synewave, Yorkii, JimmySeal, any tips? Christoph what's you're game plan or anyone else, I'd love to hear.
I studied the Kaizen Master book for 3Q, so I'm going to use them too for 2Q.
Off I go to study...
JLPT 2006 - Christoph - 2007-02-08
Hey Guppy, I actually recieved my results last night, 合格！ I actually did much better than I thought I would. Anyway I'll be going for 2級 next year, I've already bought the 完全マスター for 2級 it's pretty scary actually, because there's no English whatsoever... but with my trusty Dictionary of japanese grammar books... I should be ok.
After taking the test last year I felt that vocab was my weak point （短所）, so I basically wanna finish up RTK1 as quick as I can, and then get on with vocab and grammar.
Also I've got a mnemosyne file for vocab if you or anyone else is interested.
JLPT 2006 - erlog - 2007-02-09
You guys wouldn't be uncomfortable disclosing your results would you? I'm really interested in how people who study RTK do on the JLPT.
JLPT 2006 - synewave - 2007-02-09
Guppy and Christoph, Japanese modesty must have been affecting us all at the reunion when none of us thought we had passed!
Jimmyseal - congratulations, that would be a top score at any level, never mind JLPT1!
As far as my mark was concerned, I got 258/400.
JLPT 2006 - guppy - 2007-02-09
Synewave I agree, no one was very confident in their scores.
Anyway on the 3級 I ended up with 255/400
JLPT 2006 - Christoph - 2007-02-10
erlog, no problem
文字・語彙: 96/100
聴解: 61/100
読解・文法: 158/200
総合点: 315/400
I'd never have been able to get that on the writing/vocab without studying heisig so much.
JLPT 2006 - Piitaa - 2007-02-10
Congratulations to everyone who passed!
Overseas people still have to wait a bit longer... もう我慢できない! Well, I'm confident I've passed the 3級 test. First time taking the JLPT too.. my vocabulary is already quite a bit larger than the 1500 something required for 3, but not quite up to level 2 standards. Also there's still holes in my grammar for level 2, a lot of that stuff hardly ever shows up in everyday Japanese, so much of it hasn't sunk in.
JLPT 2006 - yorkii - 2007-02-10
3級
文字・語彙 96/100
聴力 96/100
読解・文法 187/200
総合点 379/400
yay
JLPT 2006 - chamcham - 2007-02-10
Wow. So nice to see people passing the JLPT with such nice scores.
I took the 2-kyuu exam, but probably bombed it, even with Heisig.
I guessed on nearly every listening question.
Waiting to get my results, but it'll probably be really ugly.
I wonder if the results for Americans test takers will be posted
online(http://www.jflalc.org) before we get the snail mail packet.
Also, for those that pass, is the mailed envelope a bigger size
than the "you failed" letters? I would think so, since you also get a
certificate. But I'd just like to confirm.
Thanks.
JLPT 2006 - chamcham - 2007-02-10
I actually had my Japanese conversation partner look through the Kanzen Master 2-kyuu Grammar book are mark off all the expressions(on the index page) that she thinks are common and useful in daily life. She actually carefully read through the book and even marked if they were only used in writing, or business/news. I also had her do the same for the JLPT 2-kyuu Unicom book as well.
So now I can study all of the useful phrases (turned out to only be able 30-40%
of them) in the Kanzen and Unicom book. The rest of the phrases you'll likely never
hear in your lifetime(and most Japanese wouldn't either). If you want, I can share
them with you.
JLPT 2006 - wrightak - 2007-02-11
Congratulations to all who passed the JPLT. Nice work. I'm sure things won't be as bad as you think Chamcham.
JLPT 2006 - Christoph - 2007-02-11
chamcham Wrote:Also, for those that pass, is the mailed envelope a bigger sizeI can't actually confirm if the fail notice comes in a different size, but I can tell you what the pass notice looks like...
than the "you failed" letters? I would think so, since you also get a
certificate. But I'd just like to confirm.
Thanks.
It's about A6 in size, and you have to peel back 2 sides to reveal the results.. also, (in japan at least) you don't get the certificate automatically, you have to send off for it (and pay.. I think).
JLPT 2006 - JimmySeal - 2007-02-11
For those asking about other people's studying methods, I studied for the 2Q in two ways, starting around August the year of the test, after I had finished RTK1:
- I printed out the list of kanji appearing in past tests (level 2) from this page: http://www.mlcjapanese.co.jp/Download.htm I printed it out 2 pages per sheet, covered up the right column, wrote down my guesses for the readings, and then checked my answers, looking up the words I didn't know and writing them down along with their meanings. This helped me a lot to learn kanji readings as well as vocabulary for the reading section. This web page also has 10 mini kanji quizzes for each level of the JLPT.
- I've never seen the Kanzen Master books, but the book I used was 日本語能力試験に出る文法, published by 国書刊行会. I liked its layout. It provides about 3 example sentences for each grammar point and a quiz after every 4 or 5 grammar points, as well as section quizzes and several sample tests. I think it helped me a lot.
Again, I came across hundreds of words I didn't know, so I would look up all the ones I didn't know and wrote them down, with their readings. I think this helped me tremendously on the kanji and reading sections.
I also bought the 2004 test and went through it, timing myself, and went over my wrong answers. I think that was really helpful too.
In the end, this was my score breakdown:
２級
Writing/vocabulary - 83
Listening - 81
Reading/grammar - 140 (70%)
Total score - 304 (76%)
For those of you who have more time to get ready than I had, I also recommend reading actual writing in Japanese. I'll illustrate how I went about that when I post again about my 1Q experience.
JLPT 2006 - yorkii - 2007-02-11
chamcham Wrote:I actually had my Japanese conversation partner look through the Kanzen Master 2-kyuu Grammar book are mark off all the expressions(on the index page) that she thinks are common and useful in daily life. She actually carefully read through the book and even marked if they were only used in writing, or business/news. I also had her do the same for the JLPT 2-kyuu Unicom book as well.would be sweet.
So now I can study all of the useful phrases (turned out to only be able 30-40%
of them) in the Kanzen and Unicom book. The rest of the phrases you'll likely never
hear in your lifetime(and most Japanese wouldn't either). If you want, I can share
them with you.
i would like to know which ones i should really study and the others that are not so common too.
send me an email if you could
JLPT 2006 - synewave - 2007-02-11
Possibly useful for anyone wanting to do a bit of reading practice specifically for JLPT2. This text file (edited for Twinkle) has a list of kanji compounds from about 10 years worth of tests.
JLPT 2006 - JimmySeal - 2007-02-11
synewave Wrote:Possibly useful for anyone wanting to do a bit of reading practice specifically for JLPT2. This text file (edited for Twinkle) has a list of kanji compounds from about 10 years worth of tests.That appears to be exactly the same list as the one I mentioned in my post. Good way to save paper if you use that in a flashcard program.
JLPT 2006 - Renske - 2007-02-12
After 2.5 years of study (finished 50% of RTK1, started in september):
2級
文字・語彙: 98/100
聴解: 81/100
読解・文法: 181/200
総合点: 360/400 (90%)
I got almost 100% on Vocabulary thanks to the Excel @ Japanese software.
JLPT 2006 - chamcham - 2007-02-12
WOW. that's a really impressive.
Are you in Japan?
I'm guessing maybe another month before scores reach America.
Probably failed, since I wasn't too confident in my answers, but
I'm still curious to see how I did.
I didn't study much for it(a couple of weeks). For the first half of the kanji vocab, instead of remembering the pronunciation for each kanji, I just chose the kanji compounds that made sense meaning-wise.
Listening I bombed. Probably got like a 20% on it, since they were all complete guesses. And I pretty much only studied for reading, although I didn't finish it all and didn't get that much reading done.
Anyway, would love to see other people post their results.
Very encouraging to see that Heisig really helps so much.
I'll try posting my notes for the Kanzen/Unicom books sometime this week.
Anyway, minna-san, otsukare-sama deshita.
JLPT 2006 - Renske - 2007-02-12
chamcham Wrote:Are you in Japan?Yes, I took the exam in Japan, I'm studying here for a year now.
My listening score is somewhat less then the rest, that was due me needing to go to the bathroom :| I lost concentration and when I concentrated again I missed 2 questions... Well these things happen, or you might have the bad luck your neigbour is coughing right when the important information comes.
I guess RTK helped me getting a better score, but since JLPT doesn't have a writing section you'll never use the full potential of the knowledge you've gained using RTK. Ofcourse using RTK, even if it's only a little, helps you get a better understanding of the kanji and analyzing new kanji's, so I guess it's usefull for the reading part also.
If you really want to test your knowledge from RTK it would be best if you took the Kanji Kentei Shiken (漢検).
JLPT 2006 - suffah - 2007-02-13
Congrats to everyone, you guys have inspired me to try my hand at the test this year. Debating if I should push for 2級, I think this might be the motivation I need to kick my studying into a higher gear!
JLPT 2006 - suffah - 2007-02-13
Renske Wrote:After 2.5 years of study (finished 50% of RTK1, started in september):Did you use any of the memory programs(memosyne, supermemo, etc) with Excel@Japanese? Or was the program itself enough for you to retain all the vocab?
2級
文字・語彙: 98/100
聴解: 81/100
読解・文法: 181/200
総合点: 360/400 (90%)
I got almost 100% on Vocabulary thanks to the Excel @ Japanese software.
JLPT 2006 - Renske - 2007-02-14
suffah Wrote:Did you use any of the memory programs(memosyne, supermemo, etc) with Excel@Japanese? Or was the program itself enough for you to retain all the vocab?I didn't use anything else, the program works better then all other software because you have to input hiragana. You don't decide yourself if you got it right or wrong, you got to input it right. Also the repetition algorithm is quite nice. Strongly recommended. You'll never spell a word wrong again.
JLPT 2006 - synewave - 2007-02-14
Renske Wrote:I didn't use anything else, the program works better then all other software because you have to input hiragana. You don't decide yourself if you got it right or wrong, you got to input it right. Also the repetition algorithm is quite nice. Strongly recommended. You'll never spell a word wrong again.While we could certainly debate if it's better than all other software, I certainly agree that excel@japanese helped me with the test too. Off the top of my head, I remember seeing 万年筆（まんねんひつ）and thinking "this is from excel@japanese!"
I've not been using it since the days of the constant excel crashes and haven't gone back to it yet...will definitely get on it again a few months before the JLPT this year.
JLPT 2006 - bokuzukuri - 2007-02-14
i passed level 1 after three long years.
kanji/vocab: 98/100
listening: 97/100
reading/grammar: 183/200 (92%)
total: 378/400 (95%)
genki 1+2 and an integrated approach, kanzen master 1+2, rtk1+2, a pocket pc loaded with stackz and jlpt lists and watching a lot of japanese tv shows (bittorrent) worked for me. imo, japanese is a really simple language and easy to learn.