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Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - nest0r - 2011-06-13
In case you missed it, you can! With the latest update to cb4960's tool: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=5351
Tell your friends! ;p
Also, want to tell Anki to keep track of what words you know and use that when adding and sorting cards? You can! http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=7486
Oh, and do you want to tell Anki to take your sentence cards and automatically break them up into words, with their definitions? You can! http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?pid=126791#pid126791
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - nohika - 2011-06-13
Don't forget Yomichan.
Kind of ties into those.
We're so ridiculously lucky to have people that create stuff that like. xD I can't program at all...
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - nest0r - 2011-06-15
By the way, that Image Download plugin is cool as well. Especially for the names of recognizable figures. (Speaking of names, AntConc's collocation function does a good job of sussing those out, such as アドリア海の女王 or more eclectic stuff made up in light novels such as 必要悪の教会.)
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - HuggableWooly - 2011-06-16
I can't believe I missed this. Now I can finally get to learning all those words I can't read in my light novels. Thanks.
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - dusmar84 - 2011-06-20
This may not be the correct place for this question but I'd be interested to hear what websites you are typically reading/adding vocab from.
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - nohika - 2011-06-21
dusmar84 Wrote:This may not be the correct place for this question but I'd be interested to hear what websites you are typically reading/adding vocab from.A lot of people use the novels that can be found on this forum...somehow.
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - dusmar84 - 2011-06-21
I could be mistaken but I dont believe ppl are reading light novels in web browsers though.
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - hotkiller123 - 2011-06-21
dusmar84 Wrote:I could be mistaken but I dont believe ppl are reading light novels in web browsers though.I read the first Harry Potter like that, with rikai-chan :p
But I must admit it wasn't a very agreeable experience. Luckily, tablets are in the rise and I ordered myself a tablet with Pixel-Qi screen. So soon I'll be reading all the books I want out in the sunshine. Now if only there were a rikai-chan like app on the android market ^^
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - IceCream - 2011-06-21
dusmar84 Wrote:I could be mistaken but I dont believe ppl are reading light novels in web browsers though.i am, and honestly, i'm loving it! i didn't think i would, at all though, either.
i like solid books a lot more in general, but the ease of looking things up, adding to anki, and learning from what i'm reading just outweighs paper books by about a million tons.
but yeah, it would be even better if all that was available on one of those ink screen things... i guess there'll be a lot of happy people that day!
is anki for kindle with rikaichan mod possible??
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - nest0r - 2011-06-21
dusmar84 Wrote:I could be mistaken but I dont believe ppl are reading light novels in web browsers though.Incorrect. You've seen JNovel Formatter?
http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=7229 (Perhaps you should explore the ‘totally innocent 日本語 books thread’ or look into jReadability also.)
Rather than start using this thread to list interesting sites, because there's plenty of stuff related to that, I'll mention some general ideas I think are good, which is to use short articles/entries (e.g. Lifehacker, Twitter, Tumblr), taking a sort of sampling approach, also useful if they have both Japanese and English versions as some Japanese sites do. (Microblogs like Twitter/tumblr/whathaveyou are also nice for practicing languaging/comprehensible output.)
But one thing I've mentioned recently is Japanese WordNet is a nice browsing experience in addition to useful tool: http://nlpwww.nict.go.jp/wn-ja/index.en.html
They have very accessible Japanese and English definitions (based on Princeton's WordNet originally but when they find matches the definitions are translated to fit Japanese senses), and so you can sort of proceed in an interest-driven/meaning-driven fashion using a hyperlink style similar to tvtropes.org, which can be addictive. The hypernym/hyponym structure is great (where, for example, vehicle is a hypernym and wheeled vehicle is one of its hyponyms), though I try to avoid semantic interference by going vertical (hypernym→hyponym) rather than horizontal (hyponym→hyponym) when concepts seem very similar and it might be hard to keep them distinct when learning them.
And of course the instant card creation comes in for seamless immediate transition to Anki for any words you want to single out and ensure you immediately begin the process remembering them long-term.
I also use Textaloud's Speak Text and occasionally Proofreading features for longer passages. Triggered with a hotkey, they speak the selected text (e.g. a sentence or paragraph), either from the background (from the systray) or with a window that pops up and highlights each word as its spoken, depending on which mode you trigger.
Edit: Vertical should've said hypernym→hyponym, not hypernym→hypernym. And vice versa (hyponym→hypernym), of course.
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - bodhisamaya - 2011-06-21
Why not use Rikaichan to just read full articles anew every day and skip the whole deck creating process? I know that SRS is more efficient than studying lists of items the traditional way, but for learning a living language, why not just read, and read, and read something new every session? I am not sure why so many have converted to the SRS religion so wholeheartedly when there is nothing to indicate it is better than studying articles whole in context. I know common sense isn't always correct, but until there is evidence to the contrary in this case, why go the less interesting route?
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - IceCream - 2011-06-21
i think it depends how much of the vocabulary in any particular thing you're studying that you know, and how often they're repeated.
If there's only a few new words per thing you're reading or listening to, i think you retain them much better, possibly because you remember the context. The same with certain news words that you associate with a particular story, or words that a particular author likes to use and therefore get repeated lots of times.
But if you're reading some type of writing you haven't read before with lots of new words, it's just lots more practical and quicker to srs the words. If you're coming across a lot of new words, they just aren't going to stick, and you won't remember the context next time you see them.
i don't think it's necessary to srs every word in the japanese language or srs them forever, but a bit of srsing goes quite a long way in the long term...
i guess i've always treated anki like a kind of priming tool in a way, rather than a memorisation system exactly though, so...
Want to use Rikaichan to instantly create new cards? - Seamoby - 2011-06-21
I'm at the stage now where I am constantly trying to read, read, and then read some more, to increase my vocabulary and to get used to kanji walls. I get more motivation from reading and discovering words on my own than from studying pre-made vocabulary/sentence decks, so I don't use the latter. When I'm reading a short article, then I use Rikaikun (I'm using chrome under Ubuntu). After reading, I still put selected words into Anki, but I don't have a need to automate the process.
For longer articles and short fiction, then I use a perl script I wrote to generate a vocabulary list with readings and definitions (mecab+Edict). I try to go through the vocab list (per paragraph) before reading the article. After reading and understanding the article, selected words go into Anki. I send articles and vocabulary lists to my Instapaper account, so I can read those in my iOS or aOS device if I'm away from my computer. Short fiction from Aozora get converted into pdfs and are copied into my Sony reader, so I can take those readings with me, too.