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Firefox 4 - nest0r - 2011-03-23
So, anyone been using this?
It reported a long list of my apps as incompatible, but this add-on reenables them and lets you check for yourself whether they still work: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ ← Most of mine still work.
I haven't really noticed much difference other than a bit of a general speed increase with regards to loading itself or bookmarks, etc., and slight appearance tweaks.
Edit: Correction, the only mod that doesn't work at the moment is Wrightak's (Rikaichan).
Firefox 4 - Eikyu - 2011-03-23
Rikaichan 2 works perfectly. FF4 is great.
Firefox 4 - rich_f - 2011-03-23
I'm still running FF4 beta (last RC before FF4 came out), and Rikaichan works just fine. I can't imagine *that* much changed. Maybe just check to see if your Rikaichan is updated?
Frankly, I prefer FF3.6.X to FF4 in Win7-64. They still haven't fixed the memory leak issue in FF... in fact, it's somehow worse. MUCH worse. I'm notorious for leaving 20-30 tabs/multiple windows open. In FF3, the leak never gets worse than 860MB, but in FF4, it bloats to 1.7GB easily, bogging down the whole system. (The typing lag alone bugs the hell out of me.)
I could just leave fewer tabs open, I suppose, but they're all sites I use for various things rather frequently, like GMail, Google Calendar, etc. Ugh.
So yeah, I wish it wasn't such a pig... in various ways.
Firefox 4 - nest0r - 2011-03-23
I just tried with Rikaichan 2.01 and that works. It's the Wrightak mod I was focusing on.
Edit: I used to have memory problems with Firefox but I don't any longer. I think it had something to do with that Cache Status add-on?
Firefox 4 - ファブリス - 2011-03-23
I'm kinda miffed that Firefox 4 is still using a separate search bar and address bar. or is that a default and there is a hidden setting?
I really wanted to like it, since I'm still relying on Firefox + Firebug daily for development but... meh. It feels to me more like an upgrade than a major revision.
I noticed the Windows screenshots seem to be more of an improvement. On Mac it's just as bulky as Firefox 3 :/
Firefox 4 - nest0r - 2011-03-23
Firefox has always had the Google search built into the URL, but it was the ‘I'm Feeling Lucky’ version apparently. You can fix that, though: http://www.techzilo.com/search-google-address-bar-firefox-google-chrome/
Also, now that I look, rather than the usual 50-70mb, Firefox is now loser to 150mb. Chrome doesn't seem that much smaller but when I do the math on its multiple process executables it's half that. Then again, I have like 1000000000 extensions for Firefox and 2-3 for Chrome.
Firefox 4 - rich_f - 2011-03-23
I like the separate search bar, actually. I don't like chrome in that respect, because it's easier to search a bunch of different JP dictionaries/etc with the separate search box. My drop-down search box is chock-full of different sources.
And yeah, I like the FF extensions better, even if it *is* a resource hog. Here's hoping they get around to fixing that. But I'd never go to Chrome default, because I don't surf without NoScript and AdBlockPlus on MaxParanoia mode. I'm always blocking something.
My other favorite feature is about:config... it's just fun to look at, and sometimes to play with. (Maybe that's why my version is such a memory pig...)
Firefox 4 - ファブリス - 2011-03-23
rich_f Wrote:My drop-down search box is chock-full of different sources.True, the drop down provides a user friendly way of selecting different search engines.
I like to edit the search engines, add a keyword for the ones I use often.
Thinking of it, the way it works in Chrome, and I don't know if they added this to FF4, is that you end up using the search engines even without the keyword if you start typing the domain name and press TAB, it would go into "search within website" mode.
Firefox 4 - nest0r - 2011-03-23
Same here. I use either the URL area for Google searches on Firefox, the Home button, or this extension where a hotkey closes all tabs and takes you to a custom page (I have it set up for my Google home page, and I also have ‘&complete=0’ added to all Google search URLs, not a fan of suggest/Instant). I use the search bar for searching other sites such as Twitter, Bing, Google Books, Google Translate, etc. Then there's that extension where right-clicking a word lets me search for it on custom sites (such as jisho.org's sentences).
I also use keywords in the URL for searching specific sites.
@Fabrice - Not sure about that but I would usually type the domain to refine it, or type site:*.com etc. at the end. There's also the plugin that adds a search within site button to the search bar.
I opened Chrome and typed a domain in the URL bar and hit TAB and it just tabbed me out of the URL bar. ;p
Firefox 4 - cntrational - 2011-03-24
Omnibar is a nice extension that combines the url and search bars.
Firefox 4 - nest0r - 2011-03-24
I use the separate search bar more than I use keywords, to be honest. Either I add terms to URL bar searches to refine, or I use the visual icons/drop down (w/ Ctrl + E to focus on search bar), or I right-click and select from drop-down using another Search-related add-on whose name I forget. I guess I don't want to create/memorize little keywords. ;p
Looks like FireSay doesn't work with Firefox 4? I don't see a microphone icon anywhere. Too bad, I got excited after playing with the voice search Chrome extension, having never played with FireSay in earlier versions. Then again, the speech recognition was terrible for the Chrome extension and it doesn't take Japanese, and I'm paranoid about where my voice data ‘goes’ also. ^_^
Firefox 4 - ファブリス - 2011-03-24
nest0r Wrote:I opened Chrome and typed a domain in the URL bar and hit TAB and it just tabbed me out of the URL bar. ;pIt works if you have a search engine for the site, either you made one or one was detected after you used the website's search box (the website has to declare it somewhere in the html, not all do). Here's an example.
Firefox 4 - nest0r - 2011-03-24
ファブリス Wrote:I see. I haven't been using it (I used it when I first installed it to add some stuff), but you can do that with the Add to Search Bar add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/add-to-search-bar/ - You can either add to search bar by right-clicking a search field on a site, or you can right-click the search field to add a bookmark w/ keyword.nest0r Wrote:I opened Chrome and typed a domain in the URL bar and hit TAB and it just tabbed me out of the URL bar. ;pIt works if you have a search engine for the site, either you made one or one was detected after you used the website's search box (the website has to declare it somewhere in the html, not all do). Here's an example.
Firefox 4 - nest0r - 2011-03-25
Word capture no longer works in Lingoes for Firefox 4.
Now it's just like Chrome.But you can set it up so that it translates double-clicked words... http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/772698
Sadly that means double-clicking to select a word for non-translating reasons overlaps with Lingoes. Guess I'll stick with clipboard-translation in Stardict/Lingoes instead, though I'd gotten spoiled with my mouse-only selective translation, that perfect cross between automatic pop-ups w/ mouseover and clipboard scanning.
Firefox 4 - Shakunatz - 2011-03-26
@nest0r I have the same problem with the modified version of rikaichan. In addiction the XHTMLルビサポート 3.0.2 refused to load and it *forced me* to downgrade again to FF3.5.18 T_T
Am I the only with that problem? 50% of my FF usage is reading novels formatted with the cb's JNovel Formatter :/
I know I'm a spoiled child but I have developed a sort of addiction to that plugin >.<
Firefox 4 - nest0r - 2011-03-26
@Shakunatz
I'm using HTML Ruby (not XHTML) plugin and this version works fine w/ Firefox 4.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/html-ruby/
Firefox 4 - Shakunatz - 2011-03-26
Ouch >.< I should have figured out by myself that there were other add-ons for ルビ :/ Thank you!!
Now I have to get used to the fact I can't mine sentences with the "S" key anymore (^.^
Firefox 4 - nest0r - 2011-03-30
The Chrome vs. Firefox issue aside, this article has a pretty nice roundup of Firefox 4 tips: http://lifehacker.com/#!5786804/why-ive-switched-from-chrome-to-firefox-4
Edit: Example: http://lifehacker.com/#!5776843/preview-open-tabs-in-firefox-when-cycling-through-them-with-ctrl%252Btab - Love this!
Firefox 4 - nest0r - 2011-03-30
rich_f Wrote:I'm still running FF4 beta (last RC before FF4 came out), and Rikaichan works just fine. I can't imagine *that* much changed. Maybe just check to see if your Rikaichan is updated?Apparently this is useful if you run a lot of tabs: http://lifehacker.com/#!5696883/enable-bartabs-memory+freeing-features-in-firefox-4 - You don't need the extension, it seems, in FF4, you can just change that one setting in about:config.
Frankly, I prefer FF3.6.X to FF4 in Win7-64. They still haven't fixed the memory leak issue in FF... in fact, it's somehow worse. MUCH worse. I'm notorious for leaving 20-30 tabs/multiple windows open. In FF3, the leak never gets worse than 860MB, but in FF4, it bloats to 1.7GB easily, bogging down the whole system. (The typing lag alone bugs the hell out of me.)
I could just leave fewer tabs open, I suppose, but they're all sites I use for various things rather frequently, like GMail, Google Calendar, etc. Ugh.
So yeah, I wish it wasn't such a pig... in various ways.
Firefox 4 - rich_f - 2011-03-30
Looks interesting.
Actually, I noticed that the release version of FF4 is much better with memory handling than the last RC was, for some reason or another. It may have to do with how they were tracking user behavior for beta testing purposes or something like that. But memory use is back down to FF 3.6 levels again.
But if it starts to get annoying, I may just use that hack. Chrome is fine for the Xoom, but it just never did it for me on the desktop.
(And here's hoping they fix the modified version of Rikaichan. That was a cool program I never got a chance to use.)
Firefox 4 - nest0r - 2011-03-30
Yeah I don't understand that tweak well, but apparently it makes the tabs load progressively and also removes them from RAM after an inactive period, then they refresh when you switch back to them? Not sure about the latter. Not sure if I'd actually want the latter.
Also, at least cb4960's mod is up to date. I bet someone savvy could dig into wrightak's mod and add certain elements of the code to cb4960's JDIC version? /n00b