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々 - What is it? - shaggadelyc - 2011-03-22
Well, the topic basically says it all, i stumbled across the "kanji" 々. It seems so double the Kanji coming before it, luckily the same symbol came in the next sentance again in a different word. Is there more to it than just the doubling up effect? Why isnt it listed anywhere?
々 - What is it? - NoSleepTilFluent - 2011-03-22
Yeah as far as I can tell it just has the doubling effect. And most people don't consider it a Kanji because it has no meaning by itself it's more like a really fancy kana. 時々、人々、昔々,日々、刻々, I can't think of more.
々 - What is it? - shaggadelyc - 2011-03-22
FYI 少々 , 別々 are the ones I came across.
々 - What is it? - gesserit - 2011-03-22
Actually it is not a kanji, it is considered a punctuation mark. It is part of the 踊り字 (dancing characters). Its name is 同の字点 (literally, "same sign mark"). Its function is merely to repeat the previous KANJI (you cannot use it to repeat hiragana or katakana, they have their own 踊り点, even though those are almost never used). You can find this mark commonly and it is more or less up to you whether to use it or simply write the kanji twice.
For example:
時々 = 時時
少々 = 少少
段々 = だんだん (much more common written in hiragana, actually)
個々 = 個個
処々 = ところどころ (also, more common in hiragana)
々 - What is it? - NoSleepTilFluent - 2011-03-22
日日(hinichi) does NOT equal 日々
but 日々 (hibi) does equal 日日
so careful.
々 - What is it? - cntrational - 2011-03-22
They're called "iteration marks" in English. 々 is for horizontal kanji, while 〻 is used in vertical kanji. 二 is also used in Chinese, but I don't know if it's used in Japanese.
ゝis used for hiragana, while ヽ is used in katakana. They're rarely used in modern Japanese, but they used to be very common.
〱 and 〲 were vertical iteration marks that repeated two kana. They're almost non-existent in modern Japanese. Wikipedia has a picture here.
々 - What is it? - yudantaiteki - 2011-03-22
cntrational Wrote:They're called "iteration marks" in English. 々 is for horizontal kanji, while 〻 is used in vertical kanji.The latter mark is also mostly obsolete; nowadays 々 is used even in vertical text.
々 - What is it? - iSoron - 2011-03-22
Potentially useful trivia: you can type 々 and ゝ in most IMEs by kanjifying おなじ.
々 - What is it? - ta12121 - 2011-03-22
NoSleepTilFluent Wrote:日日(hinichi) does NOT equal 日々definitely be-careful.
but 日々 (hibi) does equal 日日
so careful.
々 - What is it? - yudantaiteki - 2011-03-22
Although 日にち is a pretty common way to write that word also, maybe to avoid confusion.
々 - What is it? - duder - 2011-03-22
yudantaiteki Wrote:Although 日にち is a pretty common way to write that word also, maybe to avoid confusion.id like to make this more confusing by adding that 日々 is sometimes read nichi nichi as in 日々是好日
々 - What is it? - dat5h - 2011-03-24
duder Wrote:According to goo, ひび is also fine in this contextyudantaiteki Wrote:Although 日にち is a pretty common way to write that word also, maybe to avoid confusion.id like to make this more confusing by adding that 日々 is sometimes read nichi nichi as in 日々是好日
I've never heard this before so thanks for the new optimistic phrase http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/jn2/186770/m0u/%E6%97%A5%E3%80%85%E6%98%AF%E5%A5%BD%E6%97%A5/
々 - What is it? - duder - 2011-03-24
dat5h Wrote:i got this phrase from a priest in my town so that i could make a shodo gift for a friend's wedding. I really like it alotduder Wrote:According to goo, ひび is also fine in this contextyudantaiteki Wrote:Although 日にち is a pretty common way to write that word also, maybe to avoid confusion.id like to make this more confusing by adding that 日々 is sometimes read nichi nichi as in 日々是好日
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/jn2/186770/m0u/%E6%97%A5%E3%80%85%E6%98%AF%E5%A5%BD%E6%97%A5/