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You find it easier to.... - dizmox - 2011-03-21
...have natural conversations in Japanese than in your own language.
Other than me, who else does this apply to? Maybe it's a common case of the charisma man effect.
You find it easier to.... - Ryuujin27 - 2011-03-21
Define easier. Do you mean easier to express what you want to say? Or easier to talk to people in general because you are less shy?
Neither apply to me, but if either one applies to you, that's awesome.
You find it easier to.... - dizmox - 2011-03-21
Conversation just seems to flow better in Japanese for me, probably a bit less shy too.
You find it easier to.... - mezbup - 2011-03-22
I find that I talk to anyone and everyone I get given half the chance... something I don't do in English at all. I also find some things a bit easier to say in Japanese because I find it less embarrasing? Although, when speaking English I feel like 余裕がある but I don't feel that way in Japanese (yet
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You find it easier to.... - Splatted - 2011-03-22
What's the charisma man effect?
You find it easier to.... - NoSleepTilFluent - 2011-03-22
Charisma man is a comic book character where he is a loser back home but around Japanese he is transformed to be the most Attractive person ever. It's a failed belief that If you go to Japan then you're gonna be instantly loved by everyone around you. It's similar to the widely known 「日本語が上手ですね。」 People are just being nice. If you can't speak the language then you won't be getting any women of "quality". つまり、You would only be able to date Japanese girls that can speak English. And typically girls that can speak English are average or below average looking girls. They make up for this by improving their English and it seems to work, right. The hot girls want to meet a cool foreigner but don't have the English to be able to do that so they stick to cool Japanese guys. if you Up your J-speak you can open your opportunities. Learn Kanji > Learn Japanese > Have fun.
You find it easier to.... - Zorlee - 2011-03-22
NoSleepTilFluent Wrote:. And typically girls that can speak English are average or below average looking girls. They make up for this by improving their English and it seems to work, right. The hot girls want to meet a cool foreigner but don't have the English to be able to do that so they stick to cool Japanese guys. if you Up your J-speak you can open your opportunities.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh...
This wasn't a joke?
Seriously, why on earth would there be a link between English skills and looks?
You find it easier to.... - dizmox - 2011-03-22
If they devote too much effort to English it'll impact on their shopping and wardrobe management skills.
You find it easier to.... - bodhisamaya - 2011-03-22
Zorlee Wrote:Seriously, why on earth would there be a link between English skills and looks?There seems to be a link between lack of English skills and increased waist size in America's South
You find it easier to.... - Splatted - 2011-03-22
@nosleeptillfluent: thanks for the explanation
@everyone else: I think he was joking, but he's not slept since february, so maybe not...
You find it easier to.... - Zorlee - 2011-03-22
bodhisamaya Wrote:HAHA!Zorlee Wrote:Seriously, why on earth would there be a link between English skills and looks?There seems to be a link between lack of English skills and increased waist size in America's South
You find it easier to.... - ta12121 - 2011-03-22
bodhisamaya Wrote:That might be actually true to some extent...Zorlee Wrote:Seriously, why on earth would there be a link between English skills and looks?There seems to be a link between lack of English skills and increased waist size in America's South
You find it easier to.... - ta12121 - 2011-03-22
dizmox Wrote:If they devote too much effort to English it'll impact on their shopping and wardrobe management skills.lol.Almost all the girls I know, always love to shop. It's deadly at times, seriously! I usual just like to get something that looks good and get out. But I've yet to meet a girl that DOESN'T want to go shopping for whatever reason. Genetics perhaps? (joking)
You find it easier to.... - Aijin - 2011-03-22
NoSleepTilFluent Wrote:Charisma man is a comic book character where he is a loser back home but around Japanese he is transformed to be the most Attractive person ever. It's a failed belief that If you go to Japan then you're gonna be instantly loved by everyone around you. It's similar to the widely known 「日本語が上手ですね。」 People are just being nice. If you can't speak the language then you won't be getting any women of "quality". つまり、You would only be able to date Japanese girls that can speak English. And typically girls that can speak English are average or below average looking girls. They make up for this by improving their English and it seems to work, right. The hot girls want to meet a cool foreigner but don't have the English to be able to do that so they stick to cool Japanese guys. if you Up your J-speak you can open your opportunities. Learn Kanji > Learn Japanese > Have fun.I want to comment on this post, but every time I put my fingers to the keyboard I just get an urge to go hit my head against an inanimate object instead.
I'll just give the benefit of the doubt and assume it's tactless sarcasm.
You find it easier to.... - ta12121 - 2011-03-22
dizmox Wrote:Conversation just seems to flow better in Japanese for me, probably a bit less shy too.Hmm, maybe it's a secret language that no one can decode(i.e. when there are people around you who do not know it). I always get stares on the bus for reading jp books. Imagine what happens if I'm talking in jp to another jp person on the whole bus ride. People would just look at me strange...
You find it easier to.... - ropsta - 2011-03-22
Aijin Wrote:I'll just give the benefit of the doubt and assume it's tactless sarcasm.Don't worry. You might be ugly, but we still love ya.
=3
jk
You find it easier to.... - gyuujuice - 2011-03-22
*raises hand*
Years of speech training has made English conversation seem much more intimidating. I'm not as nervous in Japanese (and in Chinese since it's monosyllabic I don't have the same speech issues I have with English).
Though I wouldn't say it's because of skill because it ain't. :L
You find it easier to.... - Aijin - 2011-03-22
ropsta Wrote:It's true, I only learned English to make up for the fact that I have a parasitic alien baby growing on my face. Because I just knew men would be so wowed by my grammar and pronunciation that they'd say "Well, on the one hand you have a man-eating alien tumor on your forehead...but golly, your English skills are just SO sexy. Will you marry me?"Aijin Wrote:I'll just give the benefit of the doubt and assume it's tactless sarcasm.Don't worry. You might be ugly, but we still love ya.
=3
jk
You find it easier to.... - mezbup - 2011-03-22
Aijin Wrote:Will you marry me?"I do. （笑）
You find it easier to.... - ta12121 - 2011-03-22
mezbup Wrote:lolAijin Wrote:Will you marry me?"I do. （笑）
You find it easier to.... - gyuujuice - 2011-03-22
mezbup, I didn't know you were single. *cough cough wink wink*
You find it easier to.... - nadiatims - 2011-03-22
devils advocate...
Let's consider just a hand full of the qualities someone's date-ability can be judged on; good personality, high intelligence and good looks. Obviously everyone judges these things according to their own criterion and based on supply/demand, but I imagine some combination of the above is required in a potential candidate before you would consider dating them. Represent each of these qualities with a circle. In most cases, I imagine the more attractive one is the smaller the 'good looks' circle will be (ie. the number of people whose looks impress you will be smaller) and likewise for the other circles. Draw the three circles slightly offset from each other and observe their points of overlap. People that represent the pinnacle of desirability across the three traits will be much less common than those who possess only one or two. Basically no-one is perfect and people devote their time,resources and natural talents to improving different areas over the course of their lives. If an interest in language learning is the product of open-mindedness or an interesting personality, and success in it may indicate some combination of intelligence/efficiency/pragmatism/perseverance , then it's quite possible that the 'best looking' women are less represented in the 'good English speakers' category. This is not a causal relationship of course but rather a consequence of above average people being less common that average ones. Really this shouldn't come as any surprise.
Women who spend ridiculous amounts of time on their makeup/hair/wardrobe are statistically less likely to be great English speakers.
You find it easier to.... - ta12121 - 2011-03-22
gyuujuice Wrote:mezbup, I didn't know you were single. *cough cough wink wink*he is now (jking of course)
You find it easier to.... - ta12121 - 2011-03-22
nadiatims Wrote:If an interest in language learning is the product of open-mindedness or an interesting personality, and success in it may indicate some combination of intelligence/efficiency/pragmatism/perseverance , then it's quite possible that the 'best looking' women are less represented in the 'good English speakers' category. This is not a causal relationship of course but rather a consequence of above average people being less common that average ones. Really this shouldn't come as any surprise.when I think about it that way, it does make sense. But there are cases where it's different but yes it is less likely at times(depending on the person).
Women who spend ridiculous amounts of time on their makeup/hair/wardrobe are statistically less likely to be great English speakers.
You find it easier to.... - ropsta - 2011-03-22
@OP
It's not the charisma man effect. You know a language that is considered desirable by many. Therefore, people are more likely to engage in conversation with you, regardless of your personality.
Either that, or... the people you converse with regularly are just lame at conversation.
@Aijin
Alien baby? Uh... that's um... cool. I guess. But the way you inflect your verbs is just plain HAWT.