nest0r Wrote:Are you.... missing a step here? How do you get a breakdown of the sentence using Breen's functionality or this Japanese app based purely on a screenshot? As far as I'm aware, neither WWWJDIC's or overture's programs OCR + gloss at the same time. I doubt Japanese does, either, unless they found some sort of Word Lens-like integration?

So, how'd you get the text? OCR integration that's not been discussed? A separate, unmentioned OCR step? If you have to transcribe it I'm not sure it's worth the effort. If you can transcribe it in seconds, then I'm not sure it's worth SRSing unless you relied purely on furigana and have little knowledge of most of the sentence's words.

Also, this is pretty neat, if I were creating cards every once in a while on the iPod, but honestly I couldn't imagine doing it outside of the iPod or in batches. I don't really see the iOS as a good platform for making decks. I like that Japanese has an undocumented (?) glossing function, that you found, though, or that you even pointed it out because I don't think it'd been mentioned before your previous thread? A nice counterbalance to that CJK sentence thread, re: what features the app has... ;p

I do think conquering manga is the next step for us, though, re: tools for processing. That's a bit of a knotty one. Plus I personally would prefer to keep everything integrated in manga format, like with this site (if I have the right one): https://www.erin.ne.jp/en/ - Edit: Yes: https://www.erin.ne.jp/en/lesson01/basic/manga.html

Are you familiar with Capture2Text? As the name implies, it involves simultaneous screen capture + OCR: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=6769 — We talk a bit about potential subs2srs/vobsub/manga/dictionary integration with C2T there.

Also: Windows 7 also comes with a snipping tool for user-defined screenshots. It works well with OneNote and Windows Journal. There's actually quite a few screenshot programs out there. But I believe cb4960's tool is the first that lets you simultaneously screenshot + OCR Japanese + copy results to clipboard, though. (The OCRs aren't as fond of 縦書き, however.)

Also not sure recording your own voice and using it on cards is a habit worth starting, but that depends on what you're using the resulting audio for and your overall strategy.

Cranks Wrote:"Wink" "Wink" Just type in the words you don't know. The sentence above took a few seconds to isolate the words I didn't know (well know well, but needed an example).

One thing I am tinkering with is the Microsoft IMEs Kanji input ability. If this works you could draw in anything you don't know. Otherwise, you rely on knowing another word with the Kanji.

Note: In my case I just buy manga with Furigana, as I'm not good with readings yet. (Level appropriate material is important. If you can't read the readings then no need to rush to the heavy stuff. Through consistent exposure over time they will come, or through concentrated effort.)

This is all really experimental right now, but I agree that it is best done with a camera and PC for the best efficiency level.

@Yudantaiteki: My Iphone splits it up a bit better than the text gloss. I dumped たわけ and ヘマ as I didn't need them. "わけがないだろう" is nice to know. I thought it was わけ too, based on the context. I didn't realize they were a pair though. The text gloss isn't perfect and I didn't edit it. This is one of the reasons why I always have a notes field on my cards.