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Mandarin laddering through Japanese - Miyumera - 2011-02-27
Just wondering if anyone has tried laddering Mandarin after learning Japanese and how fluent in japanese would you have to be to be able to study mandarin through it... I'm assuming that your mandarin level would only be as good as your japanese level... Has anyone tried doing this?
Mandarin laddering through Japanese - Tori-kun - 2011-02-27
What I personally can imagine very well is that once you are through RtK1 for Japanese kanji it will not be much work to get the hanzi
Mandarin laddering through Japanese - astendra - 2011-02-27
Hehe. If I ever go for Chinese, I might not even bother doing RTH. Traditional FTW!
Mandarin laddering through Japanese - SheekuAltair - 2011-02-27
As far as I am aware Chinese grammar is very similar to English, so why would anyone want to approach it from Japanese way of thinking?
My native language isn't English, and sometimes English books in the languages I read talk about grammar problems that don't exist in my native language: like "-ing" ending. Those grammar points usually confuse me, until I realise that "Hey, I don't have a problem with that". Now, if someone approaches from a Japanese viewpoint Chinese, I imagine their books are going to make big fuss about grammar problems that don't exist for English speakers.
And I honestly don't confuse between two different sounding languages that much. The only problem is that if I learn two languages at the same time, or in my case now 5, I don't have time for all of them, and I'll suck in all of them. That's just because I never took time to cement the languages that I suck at.
Mandarin laddering through Japanese - yudantaiteki - 2011-02-27
Tori-kun Wrote:What I personally can imagine very well is that once you are through RtK1 for Japanese kanji it will not be much work to get the hanziIf only that were true...unfortunately it's still a lot of work to learn the characters for Chinese. You have a big advantage in knowing what some of them mean (although this can interfere too when you encounter characters that have different meanings, such as 走 being "walk" instead of "run" or 去 being "go" instead of "depart") and even when you encounter new characters that aren't used in Japanese, the shapes won't be as hard to deal with since they'll be made up of components you already know. But you shouldn't imagine that Japanese knowledge will create a magic path to easy learning of Chinese as well.
Mandarin laddering through Japanese - Ryuujin27 - 2011-02-27
If you're a native English speaker I strongly recommend not approaching Chinese through Japanese. Use English. It will be much, much easier.
Korean on the other hand... yeah, definitely use Japanese.
Mandarin laddering through Japanese - ta12121 - 2011-02-27
Your Japanese pretty much needs to be fluent if you want to use it to learn mandarin. It's a good way of maintaining all the Japanese you learned though