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Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - zigmonty - 2011-02-17
IceCream Wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%932011_Arab_world_protestsSurreal Wrote:Let's hope the rest of the world continues to stay updated on what happens in Egypt instead of, as is so common in modern society, jumping right on to the next sensational event. Speaking of which, how's Tunisia doing?... this is a really good point!
does anyone know a really good site where i can read more of the background to the protests across north africa & the middle east? i've read all the bbc, but i'm looking for something a little more detailed. (something balanced though).
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - bodhisamaya - 2011-02-19
Arizona is keeping their residents safe from Sharia Law. They are outlawing karma as well. They also successfully banned evolution in the state a while back. Now, their legislators have the reasoning powers of monkeys.
3. Religious sectarian law includes Sharia Law, Canon Law, Halacha and Karma
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - ファブリス - 2011-02-20
Down the rabbit hole...
Mubarak Toppled by CIA Because He Opposed US Plans for War with Iran; US Eyes Seizure of Suez Canal; Was this the Threat that Forced Mubarak to Quit?
Don't know what to think of this, but the way Mubarak resigned is odd.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - KirbyHead - 2011-02-20
Congrats to Egypt. I can't say I agree with many of the views in this thread, or how dissenting opinion was stifled, but I will agree that this is a great chance for the Egyptian people to pave their own path.
Although I'm not sure how things will turn out. Hopefully well, but then there're places like Nigeria where things, if you'll pardon my French, went to shit after revolutions, even after being released from military control. They're deciding things for themselves, but things are arguably much worse. Hopefully Egypt will have a much easier track to success.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - thecite - 2011-02-21
ファブリス Wrote:Don't know what to think of this, but the way Mubarak resigned is odd.I personally think Webster Tarpley is an idiot; a conspiracy nutjob.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - bodhisamaya - 2011-02-21
thecite Wrote:The way he writes, its as if he was in the room with everyone. I don't think much of what he says can be taken for anything more than fiction writing.ファブリス Wrote:Don't know what to think of this, but the way Mubarak resigned is odd.I personally think Webster Tarpley is an idiot; a conspiracy nutjob.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - ファブリス - 2011-02-21
My bad, didn't really check anything else on his site. Never heard of Tarpley before.
I like conspiracy theories from time to time because, even though their observations and conclusions may be wrong, they are often based on nuggets of truth here and there. They connect a lot of strings together that maybe shouldn't, but there is sensible information that can be found by following these strings.
Anyway, I won't post anymore "conspiracy theories" in the future on this board.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - phantombk201 - 2011-02-21
I've been waiting for a good video to sum it all up,and finally found one
A few things not mentioned in the video is that the internet and communtication networks were cut off for more than a week,and that after the "friday of anger" when the police forces were pulled from the streets,several prisons were opened(also by the police,a lot of videos show this),and more than 23000 prisoners escaped.....for several days we lighted small camp fires in the streets infront of our homes and stayed there till morning with whatever weapons we would find,usually small knives or large pieces of wood,we also had some home made molotovs ready,very few people actually had guns,we made roadblocks,usually out of large trash containers and broken tree logs and some people even used their own cars!we wouldn't let anyone in without seeing his ID first(yes!,that was cool
)..several thugs would drive around our district shooting from their cars with automatic weapons,the army would help every now and then,i've seen them shoot at a car trying to escape killing 2 of those thugs....For about a week it was aweful,closer to GTA san andreas than Egypt.Things are a lot better now with the cops back on the street,we're hoping to get more tourists to get our economy back up,come visit the pyramids or something
this is for the tourists:
(Sorry for the horrible english and japanese pronounciation lol)
And to the admin,thanks for making this thread!
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - phantombk201 - 2011-02-21
I forgot to mention,Pray for the Libyan people to get rid of Kazzafi,that guy is a crazy a*****e and probably the worst dictator after that North Korean guy,He's killing his own people with hired african mercenaries....makes me sick.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - ファブリス - 2011-02-21
Quote:Two Libyan Air Force Mirage jet fighters unexpectedly flew to Malta this afternoon with their pilots claiming they escaped to Malta after having been ordered to bomb protesters who have taken control of the second city of Benghazi.Libyan fighter jets arrive in Malta
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - bodhisamaya - 2011-02-21
I wonder how long it will take for all this to spread to China.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - fakewookie - 2011-02-21
bodhisamaya Wrote:I wonder how long it will take for all this to spread to China.Already has.
http://www.asahi.com/international/update/0221/TKY201102210563.html
Will it go anywhere? Doubt it.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - vonPeterhof - 2011-02-21
bodhisamaya Wrote:I wonder how long it will take for all this to spread to China.http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/world/news/20110221-OYT1T01010.htm?from=main1
Looks like the CPC is getting worried. Wonder if that will lead to anything.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - bodhisamaya - 2011-02-21
fakewookie Wrote:It will not go anywhere yet, but it's impossible that China could take over as the #1 economy in the world without its people demanding a say in their government, freedom of speech and of the press.bodhisamaya Wrote:I wonder how long it will take for all this to spread to China.Already has.
http://www.asahi.com/international/update/0221/TKY201102210563.html
Will it go anywhere? Doubt it.
Because of the Internet, democracy will eventually be demanded by every nation.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - vinniram - 2011-02-21
Whatever the domestic political situation of China, I hope that unlike Japan and most of the rest of the world, it doesn't become a lackey of the US regime. I hope those pushing for democracy aren't also pushing for the same subservient bilateral relationship with USA that many other countries 'enjoy'.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - bodhisamaya - 2011-02-21
America will most likely see its influence reduced in the coming decades as its economy continues to tumble.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - fakewookie - 2011-02-21
bodhisamaya Wrote:Is it? It's managed to become the #2 economy without those things.fakewookie Wrote:It will not go anywhere yet, but it's impossible that China could take over as the #1 economy in the world without its people demanding a say in their government, freedom of speech and of the press.bodhisamaya Wrote:I wonder how long it will take for all this to spread to China.Already has.
http://www.asahi.com/international/update/0221/TKY201102210563.html
Will it go anywhere? Doubt it.
Because of the Internet, democracy will eventually be demanded by every nation.
The pro-democracy movement in China has been waning since the beginning of China's rise to economic prominence. All I can say to democracy campaigners is, good luck trying to inspire a revolution in a country where most people are probably pretty pleased with the way things are going. Why would you want to completely change the political system and risk screwing everything up?
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - bodhisamaya - 2011-02-21
Economically, I see nothing wrong with China one day becoming communist (doesn't seem to fit their economic situation now). Though, politically, as the information age creeps further and further uncensored into the daily lives of the Chinese people, they will demand human rights and a voice in the fate of their own country.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - nest0r - 2011-02-21
http://venturebeat.com/2011/02/05/how-one-researcher-enabled-the-u-s-government-to-slip-news-through-chinas-censors/
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - vinniram - 2011-02-21
nest0r Wrote:http://venturebeat.com/2011/02/05/how-one-researcher-enabled-the-u-s-government-to-slip-news-through-chinas-censors/I would rather live with censorship than to be fed a steady diet of lies and propaganda by "Fox News".
This clip always makes me laugh
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - bodhisamaya - 2011-02-21
vinniram Wrote:I would rather live with censorship than to be fed a steady diet of lies and propaganda by "Fox News".No you wouldn't. There are alternatives to the lies reported by the likes of Fox News in democracies.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - vinniram - 2011-02-22
bodhisamaya Wrote:What I meant to say was: "If I had to choose between either censorship, or Fox News (and nothing else available), I'd rather censorship." That's what I meant. Of course, if it's censorship versus access to 'everything, good bad and ugly', well of course I'll go for having everything, because then I don't need to listen to things I don't want to, like fox news. Sorry I wasn't clearervinniram Wrote:I would rather live with censorship than to be fed a steady diet of lies and propaganda by "Fox News".No you wouldn't. There are alternatives to the lies reported by the likes of Fox News in democracies.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - bodhisamaya - 2011-02-22
The crazy thing about that clip is, people who are inclined to watch Fox News actually think it is a good thing the world hates them.
It is embarrassing FOX is the #1 news channel in America, but the reason is all the other channels' viewership is divided providing news for the non-crazies. While Fox gets 100% of the inbred trailer park audience.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - thecite - 2011-02-22
phantombk201 Wrote:A few things not mentioned in the video is that the internet and communtication networks were cut off for more than a week,and that after the "friday of anger"...Wow, you were right in the thick of it. Well done. Let's all hope for Libya now.
Mubarak stepped down, Egyptians celebrating live now - fakewookie - 2011-02-22
bodhisamaya Wrote:Economically, I see nothing wrong with China one day becoming communist (doesn't seem to fit their economic situation now). Though, politically, as the information age creeps further and further uncensored into the daily lives of the Chinese people, they will demand human rights and a voice in the fate of their own country.Not necessarily. Not everyone wants democracy. Chinese people are plenty aware that other countries can vote for their government and they can't.
Also, human rights and democracy are completely separate and unrelated things. I'll criticise China along with everyone else for its abuses of human rights. But I wouldn't criticise it for not adopting democracy. That's just our preferred political system in the West. We're not "right", and the Chinese way isn't "wrong".