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Question about SRS - fallinroxas - 2011-01-31 Alright, I really wanna start using an SRS but I don't know how to use one. I know how to add cards but I don't know when to add cards. Should I make a deck myself with all the Jouyou Kanji? Or should I add kanji to the deck as I learn them? Question about SRS - Womacks23 - 2011-01-31 I prefer to make my own cards because I personally believe that I get a better understanding of the words when I am forced to type them out physically. Edit: Depends on what you are studying. I make my own cards for grammar and vocabulary. RTK is different because you don't actually learn Japanese words. When I did RTK, I just downloaded the deck and wrote the kanji out by hand and filled in the story field on anki. Saved time there. Question about SRS - Asriel - 2011-01-31 Well, you'll soon start to see what patterns work and what don't. People seem of finding a way of SRSing that suits them. But if you're just beginning, I'd say add the cards as you learn them. Study something outside, learn it, stick it into SRS so you don't forget. Simple as that. If you give yourself a huge pile of cards on one day that you just fly by without ever really learning them in the first place, you're setting yourself up to have huge reviews of cards that you don't know or understand. Probably not a good idea -- especially for a beginner. You'll probably get the wrong impression of the SRS idea if you do that. Question about SRS - fallinroxas - 2011-02-01 I'm learning Kanji. What would you guys sugest I format my cards? The kanji on the front and on the back an english word for the meaning? Question about SRS - mafried - 2011-02-01 Just download one of the pre-made RTK decks. Make sure you put the English keyword on the FRONT, and the kanji on the back. You want to be testing keyword meaning -> kanji writing. You clearly haven't read Remembering the Kanji. All of this and more is explained in the introduction and first few lessons of the book, which is available online for free (click here). Question about SRS - nest0r - 2011-02-01 You might also think about using this site's SRS. Question about SRS - fallinroxas - 2011-02-01 It's not that I haven't read RTK. I just thought the lazy kanji method would be a good set up. I was just asking how others have there cards written out. Question about SRS - mafried - 2011-02-01 You should probably ask on the AJATT blog comments. I'm not trying to be mean or anything by pushing you to another forum (welcome to the boards, btw, and please stick around!), but I doubt you'll find many people here that would put faith in the lazy kanji method, and even fewer that have followed it. This is primarily a site for RTK, and Heisig's method is antithetical to the ‘lazy kanji method,’ for reasons laid out in the intro to the book and in Khatz's blog post. Question about SRS - nest0r - 2011-02-01 I don't recommend Lazy Kanji or whatnot simply because I think the most effective, fast, easy, and comprehensive method is RTK(Lite), but when not compared to RTK it seems pretty decent. An inferior offshoot but because it's an offshoot it's better than other stuff. Pretty much anything that uses SRS, separates kanji-learning into a compartmentalized process, and incorporates bottom-up primitive-based internalization is pretty decent. I think it's inferior because it's recognition rather than active recall despite active recall being perfect for learning single kanji, and because it seems too focused on 'words', too superficial. But I'm basing that off skimming various comments about 'lazy kanji'. kendo99, who seems to have made the lazy method their own, is good people, so I'll mention that I think there's a Lazy Kanji deck kendo created and uploaded in the shared decks for Anki (assuming you know how to download shared decks and plugins via Anki's menu). Question about SRS - Daichi - 2011-02-01 I'll second what nest0r said. RTK Lite > Lazy Kanji I don't have anything else to add. Question about SRS - Nagareboshi - 2011-02-01 I set my deck up so that the keyword and the story is on the front. The story is hidden, in white, but there if i need it. The "Lazy Kanji method" is something i would not try if i were you and here is why. With Heisig you learn a method to memorize how to write a kanji. Going from Keyword to Kanji with the help of a story, but without constantly seeing it, is the way to go. This is not easy and probably not fun at all for most who do it so. But here is why you should consider doing it just like that. Heisig RTK-2 summary in one sentence: You have mastered the method and can go from English keyword to kanji, and now you can also go Kana -> Kanji with the reading you have memorized. This is the main point of RTK. If you can not go keyword -> kanji, and having to always look at a story for instance, you will realize later down the road what a waste of time it was being lazy. The thing is, you are just learning / memorizing a set of kanji. No reading now but later you will have to learn them. Some do that with a book, say Basic Kanji Book, and than there is no story. There is no kanji you can look always look at, no stroke order no nothing. You are forced to learn the kanji in compounds, and i would want to see how those fare that did the lazy kanji approach. Or having the story on the front always visible. I can understand the wish to go easy, but, whatever you do don't go lazy. Do it proper even if it takes you some more time in the beginning. But in the end you are better off. Question about SRS - mezbup - 2011-02-01 You could also skip learning to write kanji and just learn to read them via creating a vocab deck. Life will work out either way. Does wonders for your reading btw.