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Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - matsu - 2011-01-21
A while ago someone posted the Anki settings for a separate learning deck that somewhat simulated the settings of a cramming deck. I found that very useful, it worked well for me.
After the upgrade to 1.2 this won't work anymore. Failed cards can still be shown as before, but once a card was passed, the very short repeat cycles are not supported anymore.
Because of this there is now a separate discussion on Anki's forum, but this goes more into the direction of future Anki releases.
Until such new release bears fruit, I thought I through this question also around in this community. How are you now, after the Anki upgrade, handling the initial studying of new cards?
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - Daichi - 2011-01-21
Well actually, everything is the same for me, I have a duplicate separate deck I use for learning from, that has "cramming" intervals. When I'm done learning from my cramming deck, I just suspend them from the cram deck and just learn them from to my normal deck. (I'm just using a pre-made deck btw)
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - overture2112 - 2011-01-21
Daichi Wrote:Well actually, everything is the same for me, I have a duplicate separate deck I use for learning from, that has "cramming" intervals. When I'm done learning from my cramming deck, I just suspend them from the cram deck and just learn them from to my normal deck. (I'm just using a pre-made deck btw)What settings do you use? I think the OP's problem (and one I noticed as well) is that you can't set everything exactly as before since some options are no longer available.
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - Cranks - 2011-01-21
Daichi Wrote:Well actually, everything is the same for me, I have a duplicate separate deck I use for learning from, that has "cramming" intervals. When I'm done learning from my cramming deck, I just suspend them from the cram deck and just learn them from to my normal deck. (I'm just using a pre-made deck btw)Same here. One week of exposure on the go before adding. My deck settings are 0.0001 for all intervals. I usually don't fail much as I'm cleaning up the vocab I don't have from JLPT 3,4,5 (this week is the end of JLPT 3), which is pretty simple to remember.
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - Rina - 2011-01-21
WTF. Anki is crazy lately! I lost all stuff I had added in the past 3 days! And, thinking I had finished my 250 reviews for today I was now adding a few more stuff, I close anki, I reopen it and have like 600 review and 20 "new" cards I had already learned a few days ago.
I'm sorry if this is not the place for that, but am I the only person to whon this has happened?
Since I downloaded the version weird stuff happen lately.
help?
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - yukamina - 2011-01-21
Hm, after I updated, I get a plugin error message, and the "checking decks" message never stops. I don't use anki much, so I don't know if anything else is off. I put it down to my non-tech savvy-ness, but other people are having issues too...
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - overture2112 - 2011-01-21
yukamina Wrote:Hm, after I updated, I get a plugin error message, and the "checking decks" message never stops. I don't use anki much, so I don't know if anything else is off. I put it down to my non-tech savvy-ness, but other people are having issues too...Sure it never stops? Upgrading a large deck can take quite a long time.
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - matsu - 2011-01-21
Daichi Wrote:Well actually, everything is the same for me, I have a duplicate separate deck I use for learning from, that has "cramming" intervals. When I'm done learning from my cramming deck, I just suspend them from the cram deck and just learn them from to my normal deck. (I'm just using a pre-made deck btw)I also kept my learning deck with the same settings as before, but the timing of passed cards is very different.
Before, initially passed cards would show up rather soon again (I'd say within less than a minute), but now it takes that much longer for them to come back again. I can see in the browser that they are due, but they're not in the cue. They do show up in the cue when I close the deck (that's on Anki PC version) and reopen it again. On AnkiMobile even that trick won't work, I'd have to close the program before the cue is updated again.
Could you maybe post your deck settings?
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - Thora - 2011-01-21
yukamina Wrote:Hm, after I updated, I get a plugin error message, ...If you haven't already, download the updated Japanese plugin. Some other plugins have also been updated for this version. (btw, thanks Thurd!) I think you can see the plugin name near the bottom of the error message.
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - matsu - 2011-02-02
sorry to bring this up from the dead, but I thought I'd forward a tip mmbradle recently posted on Anki's forum:
"If I understand the problem you are having, it is not that reviews
don't get scheduled at all, but that new cards get scheduled before
the reviews do. It seems to me that the "Show new cards after all
other cards" setting should force this to not happen but that's not
working right now. So here is a workaround I've been using:
1. Set the New Cards/Day to 10
2. Review until you get back to "Study Options" (No new cards show up)
2. Increase New Cards/Day to 20 and review until no cards are showing
up
3. Repeat until you have learned as much as you want for that day
Also, I have "Display Order" set to "Review cards from smallest
interval"
So that I keep working on a hard card instead of moving on to an older
due card. This forces me to really get what I'm currently working on
before moving onto something else. But perhaps you have a different
learning style. "
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - dusmar84 - 2011-02-02
Nothing really to add here just wondering as to Damien's motives for taking this feature out.
That is all.
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - mafried - 2011-02-02
I'm sure resolve will chime in, but I'd guess it was because the minimum timescale for long term learning should be at least a day (more accurately, after you slept on it). It also prevents anki addiction, where people are loading it up every few minutes to see if they have new reviews. It's protecting people from themselves as none of the scheduling algorithms were designed with minute-by-minute usages in mind. In fact, they are explicitly designed to work with day-by-day granularity. The minute-by-minute feature of anki was an artifact of its implementation.
If I can make a suggestion to resolve along similar lines of protecting new users: eliminate "normal" and "easy" as options for new (and failed?) cards. In fact, eliminate the review for new cards entirely. Just have two buttons: Learned: yes or no. 'Yes' gives it an interval of one day, 'no' puts it on the bottom of the stack. I've seen to many people get burned out because they answered "normal" or "easy" to new cards they just studied, then only remember a handful when they don't see it again for a week. When you've just learned a card, no matter how well you think you know it you need to review it in the next day or two or the memory won't stick. Lots of people find this out the hard way... it would be better to keep it from happening in the first place.
Learning new cards with Anki 1.2 - Blahah - 2011-02-02
This doesn't apply to the OP, but to those posting about Anki issues:
ファブリス has made this clear many times: please don't post Anki problems in this forum. Anki has it's own forum where you are much more likely to get your issue resolved (pun intended!).