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Enter the Void - EratiK - 2011-01-05
Hey guys.
Just here to make a quick movie recommendation.
I've just seen this movie,
Enter the Void
, which really turned my brains inside out (especially after the movie, while I was walking down the street at night, and it took maybe 10 minutes to tell my senses I wasn't watching the movie anymore).
Incidently, the movie was shot in Tokyo.
If you like David Lynch (the closet director that compares IMHO), this movie is for you.
Also, if it doesn't run at your local theatre (which is likely), watch it with an overhead projector or a big flat screen (in the dark) if you can, because this movie isn't for laptops and such.
I hope you'll enjoy it. Tell me what you think.
See you.
Enter the Void - ueshiba - 2011-01-05
You say pretty much the same thing i say when i really like a movie, i enjoyed it so much, i want it to be perfect for the people i recommend it to, so they get the mood and the movie, and don´t spoil it by being in a different mood and dont get certain things!
Thanks for the recommendation by the way, haven´t watched, and will now watch it soon!=P
Enter the Void - nest0r - 2011-01-05
I was in love with Irreversible when it came out, so I've already looked into Noé's filmography and had looked forward to Enter the Void, but I didn't like it. To me it didn't really feel very creative, original, or interesting. It felt too gimmicky and posturing. But I felt the same way about his other films, come to think of it. Perhaps I would've thought the same about Irreversible if it hadn't been my first. They say you never forget your first.
I did think the sound design in some of the sequences was really good. And I really liked the opening credits! Which sounds like a joke but if you've seen, you know what I mean.
Enter the Void - EratiK - 2011-01-05
Not very plot-interesting I can understand, but not creative or original, certainly not.
The height of the shots, never been done this way before (though Irreversible comes close, though the distance, pace, and movements are a little different). And I don't mention the use made of all the other shots.
The colours, had never seen that before.
The focus/unfocus dimension. Since it was rotoscopied, a freedom allowing effects not usually possible with lenses.
The way kitsch is used to maximize impact (though this technique is also in his other films, the treatment is new).
The way the appearances are emphasised to introduce a reflexion on the inner void was also new to me.
Plus the DMT scene was also the best of this kind evermade IMHO, so that's new too (another nice one is in Blueberry (2004) by Jan Kounen for anyone who's interested)
EDIT: I can't decide wether your link is a spoiler or not, so I don't know if you should remove it or not. Probably not.
Enter the Void - jettyke - 2011-01-06
Wow, it's very cool!
Never seen visuals like that before in a movie.
Definitely recommend.
Enter the Void - nest0r - 2011-01-07
EratiK Wrote:Not very plot-interesting I can understand, but not creative or original, certainly not.I didn't see anything new. Noé did some stuff in large amount and all at once, visually, but to me it just seemed dull and empty. I thought the drug-related stuff was typically terrible. It makes me wonder if the director actually ever did DMT as Wikipedia claims. ;p I checked out Blueberry on Youtube, that scene seemed even worse.
The height of the shots, never been done this way before (though Irreversible comes close, though the distance, pace, and movements are a little different). And I don't mention the use made of all the other shots.
The colours, had never seen that before.
The focus/unfocus dimension. Since it was rotoscopied, a freedom allowing effects not usually possible with lenses.
The way kitsch is used to maximize impact (though this technique is also in his other films, the treatment is new).
The way the appearances are emphasised to introduce a reflexion on the inner void was also new to me.
Plus the DMT scene was also the best of this kind evermade IMHO, so that's new too (another nice one is in Blueberry (2004) by Jan Kounen for anyone who's interested)
EDIT: I can't decide wether your link is a spoiler or not, so I don't know if you should remove it or not. Probably not.
Enter the Void - nest0r - 2011-01-07
Oh and I don't mean to attack your opinion, you're entitled to your taste. I think I'm coming across confrontationally because I've been on a Crows/Worst manga marathon.
Enter the Void - EratiK - 2011-01-07
Don't worry nest0r, I don't easily get excited, and I've always valued your insights (even though some can be questionable sometimes).
I even see your point. I think that's Visconti that said "everything has to change so that nothing changes" (he probably hadn't read the Yi-Ching).
Anyway, as a guy interested in cinema, I would be curious to hear a recent movie recommendation from you.
Enter the Void - nest0r - 2011-01-07
EratiK Wrote:Don't worry nest0r, I don't easily get excited, and I've always valued your insights (even though some can be questionable sometimes).Iron Man 2! ;p
I even see your point. I think that's Visconti that said "everything has to change so that nothing changes" (he probably hadn't read the Yi-Ching).
Anyway, as a guy interested in cinema, I would be curious to hear a recent movie recommendation from you.
Enter the Void - nest0r - 2011-01-07
Actually, even though I hadn't seen or thought about the film since 2006, I randomly glanced at my old film-viewing notes and saw Niewolski's Palimpsest and my ESP told me to mention it to you: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0805580/ - Apparently I'm a fan of Arkadiusz Tomiak's cinematography though I can't remember why. I will trust my notes.
Enter the Void - jettyke - 2011-01-07
I think the point of this movie, and why he used all the stuff at once, was to make it as close to the psychedelic trip on screen as he was able to. And perhaps it was his limit.
This was the most moving/shocking film I have seen yet in my entire life, I had been thinking for 24 hours after watching the film for many many times, and was shocked for a while. I felt enlightened/reborn in a way after watching this film. I even had a sort of a flashback into the movie when watching myself in a mirror today.
Couldn't compare this film to the typical stuff I've seen on screen. As I haven't seen anything like it before, It was very new to me. But of course I haven't been watching western movies so much since I started learning japanese...
Enter the Void - quincy - 2011-01-08
Cool movie, but the story and acting were really bad. I guess that's not really the point though, the director just wanted to do a very artsy movie. Still, I feel like such a better movie could have been made the same way.
Enter the Void - cchanji - 2011-01-19
Thanks for the recommendation; I watched Enter the Void last Sunday. I like the engaging atmosphere and setting of the film, though I wished it would have been about an hour shorter. The title sequence is great but the following stroboscopic, seizure-inducing effects are a bit overkill.
Enter the Void - vileru - 2011-01-19
jettyke Wrote:I think the point of this movie, and why he used all the stuff at once, was to make it as close to the psychedelic trip on screen as he was able to. And perhaps it was his limit.This is straying OT, and of course I'm not speaking from experience, but the most realistic portrayal of a psychedelic trip I've seen is this video. The visuals and audio are spot-on, except that everything in visual range would be morphing (not only his face). /digression