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Common Japanese Collocations - vinniram - 2010-12-18
I just want to know others' opinions of this book "Common Japanese Collocations", if you have bought it. (NB: Collocation means a common grouping of words, I had to look it up). I am about to place a rather large amazon order for a number of Kodansha books which I think will be very helpful to improve my Japanese (namely: Onomatopoeia book, Kanji affixes, Idiom dictionary, and slang dictionary). The Collocation book is the only one I'm not sure if it's actually worth getting. A reviewer on amazon said that it is a waste, and the information could be found in any dictionary, and having looked at the amazon preview, I'm starting to become convinced that this is true.
Thanks if anyone who has used this can share their view. The reason I wanted to get the collocation book was to boost my vocab past the 2500 or so words introduced in my Japanese textbook (JFE). If there are books that perform this function better, I'd appreciate if you could inform me. If not, I'll just stick to Core6k I guess.
Common Japanese Collocations - nest0r - 2010-12-18
Here's some stuff on it: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?pid=121789#pid121789
Common Japanese Collocations - rich_f - 2010-12-18
I just posted something about it here a few days ago:
http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?pid=121797#pid121797
TL;DR: It's okay, and the concept is good, but the organization is a little off-putting for me (organization by situation = ugh), the individual entries under each word are sometimes short and aren't always useful, and you can probably get the same or better info from ALC's online dictionary, or just about any other dictionary, to be honest.
Common Japanese Collocations - Daichi - 2010-12-18
I got this one, it's useful if you can find what your looking for. But yeah, it's not exactly organized in a useful way. I just flip through it on occasion. If someone built a real index for it, it could be great.
Which actually might not be too hard, just listing all the header words and their page numbers. A Google spreadsheet anyone?
Common Japanese Collocations - Daichi - 2011-01-08
Well, I got bored and started to type up the entries from this book. If anyone wants to help out it would be much appreciated as this is a bit of a pain to type while holding the book open. Also, is there any extra information we should include?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AkhbJcrswgbzdC1mVFJtT0lUZUpCdFhqSDRqdkFXWEE&hl=en&authkey=CPG29csH
Common Japanese Collocations - Katsuo - 2011-06-12
(reviving old thread...)
Cloze deletion seems like a suitable method for learning & checking collocations, so I uploaded an Anki deck made from the opening pages of this book. Also here is the data in a Google docs spreadsheet.
Common Japanese Collocations - nest0r - 2011-06-12
You can also use AntConc to find collocations/clusters and collocates, in case you've missed my rambles across a variety of random threads.
Right now I'm just looking at generating all clusters frequently occurring in a smallish range of texts grouped by various means, but you can also use much larger corpora and specific searches, including batch searches of lists.
I also forgot to mention in one of my rambles that to get the settings to stick, you need to export settings once you've set them (e.g. language and search settings) and save the resulting .ant file to the .exe's folder (at least that's what works for me).
Common Japanese Collocations - Zarxrax - 2014-02-28
Hmm, just noticed this old thread and see some people got a start on keying the phrases into a spreadsheet. I've actually done the whole first section of the book (about 860 collocations), but I'm tired of typing everything in and don't know when I might make further progress on it.
I think this is actually a really nice book, and one of the better sources of SRS material that I've come across. I think it would probably be more useful to beginner and intermediate learners than something like core6k.
Most of the vocabulary is actually relevant in real life, as opposed to training you to read a newspaper or whatever. And the phrases are all really short, typically just a noun, particle, and a verb. LOTS of repeated vocabulary across the phrases, and almost everything is i+1.
Common Japanese Collocations - jmignot - 2014-03-01
I have bought "Common Japanese Collocations" some time ago and I was disappointed by its lack of usability, at least as a book (sentence mining is another story). I got the feeling that it was packed with useful stuff but I would be bored to death trying to read it cover to cover, and looking up information is a pain without at least a word index.
But I agree that it would be great to have it in the form of an Anki deck.
Too much work for me to type in so many sentences, though…
Common Japanese Collocations - CaLeDee - 2014-03-01
I have a deck I made from the collocations in コロケーションが身につく 日本語表現練習帳. It's just over 3/4's of the entire book (926 collocations). The problem is that it's not cloze deleted, which in retrospect I wish I had done. I've now made a replica of the deck and am going through it to make it cloze deleted, but I'll upload the original for anyone interested.
https://mega.co.nz/#!hIY1DaqA!gUYckGUHHHlkEm7KY3W90rpJz9WElHj3YV45MIHic7I
Common Japanese Collocations - anritsi - 2014-03-01
CaLeDee Wrote:I've now made a replica of the deck and am going through it to make it cloze deleted, but I'll upload the original for anyone interested.Oh, wow! I was planning to type it up in the future, so this is really helpful. Thanks!
Common Japanese Collocations - Zarxrax - 2014-07-16
I decided I'll post what I have typed up from the Common Japanese Collocations book. First chapter, collocations only, no sentences.
https://mega.co.nz/#!8YVXGJZY!pa6h4qq6Pc-Bqgw9l62fxhbOSxflz2wX6MoJe7nbJYI
No idea when I'll get around to adding the other chapters. There's a good 800 something cards here though. I think this is probably one of the most useful resources for any beginner to intermediate learner. Better than core6k in my opinion.