nohika Wrote:I was just wondering...my Japanese friend that has the game says it uses mostly middle-school kanji, and I was wondering what that covers. I've played through her copy a little and can understand parts of it, but obviously since I haven't started RTK yet, my kanji is a little weak (I'm about 650 vocab through kore and do about 35-50 new cards a day).

Anyone have any ideas? I'm getting my copy for Christmas and was hoping to do RTK Lite, or possibly just power through RTK as fast as I can.

Ideas/opinions? Thanks!

nohika Wrote:...I'm a little offended by your reply, which partially comes from I don't understand what the heck you're saying.

I don't plan to learn Japanese with Pokemon White (or whatever). I'm using Kore, All About Particles, and a few other references. I've got about a thousand cards right now. I left out what I'm studying with since I already have a thread based on that, if anyone cares. I read manga (kind of) for fun. I'm not learning Japanese from video games, I promise you that. It's something I enjoy.

I'm not looking to SRS Pokemon, and I'm not really interested in visual novel-type games.

I'm quite "real", thanks.

So basically - nothing you said corresponds to what I asked. But thanks anyways, I guess? I'm just looking for how much kanji is in the game. That's it.

PS: No, I'm not a beginner.

ghinzdra Wrote:sorry for the beginner , it's always a bit touchy to use this term . I just inferred from what you said about RTK that you just began japanese .
As for the game , I mentionned "conditionned an equal access and interest to all media " and clearly pointed out it's the tricky part . Obviously we're not interested in all type of media . And obviously most language learners don't have an equal access to all kind of media .

Sorry for the tone , I think I used your topic as an occasion to say what's on my mind about video game learning and I had been keeping it for a long time now . It was irrelevant to your question . My bad .

Cranks Wrote:I don't think it would be too hard. If it's Junior High School level then 800 or so should be enough. If you can get the gist then it's enough.

Video games are all good as side learning opportunities. It's not super efficient, but, then again, if you were a real Japanese kid would you not play it? May as well enjoy it, if Pokemon floats ya boat. In TL = FTW.

gyuujuice Wrote:野生のギュウジュースが飛び出した！wwww

I played the game for a short while, I don't own it, but Pokemon games use a lot of dialect stuff so perhaps learn a few things like "やろ". I played Crystal in Japanese back in the day when there wasn't kanji in games. XD

Good luck and have fun!

PkmnTrainerAbram Wrote:I was going to respond to the second post, but since that debate is outta the way...

To answer the topic, I have no idea how many kanji are in the games, and I have about 320 hours logged in. I do know that there are some words like Kaifuku written in kanji on one screen and in kana on the very next though.

I am on Frame 1360 now, but was on 800 when I started the game. I pretty much kept the text setting on Kanji and didn't look back, and it's helped me recall kanji like crazy.

I played previous games for longer and could found that my reading speed in kana went way up, that's pretty much my goal with leaving the kanji on instead of off. I tried to go back to kana only once, and it just didn't feel right.

PkmnTrainerAbram Wrote:I remember the wait for my copy of Black to arrive, like 2 weeks after release. Couldn't almost do it, then the day it came I played for 20 minutes and just feel alseep. Was tired, but just burned out from the wait. Didn't play much that day, matter of fact, I think I reviewed kanji more that week than playing the game....

And yeah, I figured if I couldn't understand the word in Kanji, I really wouldn't know it in kana, so I just keep it on. Certainly didn't hurt, and like the above poster said, you're gonna want exposure to kanji anyway.