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The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Womacks23 - 2010-11-25
http://www.durex.com/en-sg/sexualwellbeingsurvey/pages/default.aspx
Japanese sex = (Almost) the worst
Hey China girl, sup.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Tzadeck - 2010-11-25
nest0r Wrote:Is inaccurate really the right word? It seems to me that it's not that it's inaccurate, it's that it's based on anecdotal evidence. Inaccurate would mean that it's an assertion that is incorrect, but rather we have an assertion and we don't really know whether it's correct or not.Womacks23 Wrote:Nothing inaccurate with saying the majority of Japanese women are very passive in bed compared to western women.Inaccurate, yes, and stereotypical nonsense. It's not a stereotype, you say? That Japanese people are 'bad in bed' because you claim they have the least amount of sex? Please, do explain/prove your points.
My favorite descriptive phrase is "starfish fucker".
BTW it's not a stereotype. Japanese people have by far the least amount of sex in the industrialized world.
Personally, the Japanese women I've been with are more passive than the American women I've been with. But the behaviour of a small number of women--all from the same general area and who fell for the same man--obviously aren't representative of a country as a whole.
Saying someone is bad at sex is really subjective. Even the word 'passive' is a little bit too vague. I would use the word passive from my personal experiences, but it's not really so black and white. Sorry to get into my sex life a bit too much, but my experience is that I do similar things in bed with American girls and Japanese girls, it's just that the American girls have initiated those things themselves more often. So in my experience both groups have been equally active in what they actually do, but Japanese girls have not been nearly as active in initiating it.
At any rate, I enjoy my sex life in Japan.
And, I agree that it's ridiculous to say that because people have less sex on average they are worse at sex. Probably people have less sex on average in Japan because they see each other less often. I know a lot of couples that only meet about two times a month.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Thora - 2010-11-26
Womacks23 Wrote:Nothing inaccurate with saying the majority of Japanese women are very passive in bed compared to western women.
Tzadeck Wrote:Is inaccurate really the right word?Maybe "incomprehensible"?
...the majority of Japanese women...compared to western women. wha??
Womacks Wrote:Japanese people have by far the least amount of sex in the industrialized world....with their spouses. Don't forget they have the largest sex industry in the whole wide world too. :p
Japanese women are devastatingly awesome in bed. You dudes clearly don't know what you're doing... (one for Nest0r) ;-)
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - slivir - 2010-11-26
I'm with Womacks. Jgirls are starfish. Biased generalisation? Of course it is! But this is an internet forum not a university seminar.
I do believe (comparatively) Japanese people have very little sex too. Some of the lowest in the developed world. Not surprising really considering the long hours they work.
Please don't ask me for a link, I read it a while ago in the paper. It seems like it's getting to the point where to even post a POV on an internet forum you need to have evidence to back it up. This is an internet forum not a journal article... Think of it like a discussion down at the pub rather than a lecture
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Womacks23 - 2010-11-26
I posted a link
http://www.durex.com/en-US/SexualWellbeingSurvey
Japan - down at the bottom for amount of sex, least amount of orgasms, lowest happiness, low everything except masturbation.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - nest0r - 2010-11-26
You and Womacks might have low standards such as condom company surveys and coarse, sloppy logic to support your bigoted notions about race, gender, etc., slivir, but it would be a mistake to think that because it's an internet forum you're somehow immune from accountability or others holding you to higher standards.
Trust me, no one is expecting you to write anything resembling a coherent academic presentation on the matter, least of all myself.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - nest0r - 2010-11-26
Thora Wrote:Heh. Western Women are different in that they more actively (desperately) strive to extract a decent sexual performance from their menfolk. Western Men are more easily pleased (i.e. completion in seconds, which results in more sexual 'sessions' and of which they report high satisfaction with on the scientific sexology studies deployed online).Womacks23 Wrote:Nothing inaccurate with saying the majority of Japanese women are very passive in bed compared to western women.Tzadeck Wrote:Is inaccurate really the right word?Maybe "incomprehensible"?
...the majority of Japanese women...compared to western women. wha??
Womacks Wrote:Japanese people have by far the least amount of sex in the industrialized world....with their spouses. Don't forget they have the largest sex industry in the whole wide world too. :p
Japanese women are devastatingly awesome in bed. You dudes clearly don't know what you're doing... (one for Nest0r) ;-)
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Womacks23 - 2010-11-26
Lol
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17619467/
Japan came last in a 29-country study of sexual satisfaction published by the University of Chicago last year, with a mere 25.7 percent of lovers expressing satisfaction in bed.
BTW the durex survey is legit and has been going on for 10+ years now.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - nest0r - 2010-11-26
Womacks23 Wrote:LolIf you're trying to indicate that you're a slave to common media narratives about Japan (often predictions/explanations regarding the birthrate figures) and loosely associating your subjective stereotypes with such sources and secondhand survey data as 'support', I already got that ages ago. ^_-
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17619467/
BTW the durex survey is legit and has been going on for 10+ years now.
"Legit" is one word for it, and just the first of many.
Now I feel dirty for engaging in this thread. I usually try to avoid them and stick with more abstract issues where the stereotypes are less anecdotal. Sigh, thanks Aijin for bringing them out of the woodwork. Again.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Thora - 2010-11-26
[edit: looks like someone beat me to the pulpit]
Well, even down at the pub, Slivir, I think it's okay to try to avoid certain generalizations. Folks here do manage to share personal opinion and anecdotes. I think its just the categorical statements that trigger the "don't generalize" finger wagging. I find the boldest assertions are sometimes more parody than ignorance. I think the forum strikes a reasonable balance. :-)
So...I guess yellow fever is actully starfish fever. go figure...
Tzadeck Wrote:At any rate, I enjoy my sex life in Japan.there's something..... very amusing about this sentence... Thx.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Womacks23 - 2010-11-26
Japanese people have the least amount of sexual satisfaction in the world - one might call this "bad sex".
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Thora - 2010-11-26
Womacks23 Wrote:Japanese people have the least amount of sexual satisfaction in the world - one might call this "bad sex".Meaning that individuals must be unskilled lovers, though?
Maybe there are other factors at play as well? Marriage roles, overwork, lack of opportunity for more satisfying sessions, more working women, arranged marriage, lack of privacy, children nearby, attitudes towards sex, judgmental neighbours, independence/role of women, the birth control pill isn't as common, don't enjoy condoms, abortion issues, rate of adultery, rate of paid sex, sexual education, availability of pornography, quality of love hotels, etc. Who knows?
Starfish lovers sounds better at the pub though, eh?
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Womacks23 - 2010-11-26
Thora Wrote:attitudes towards sexYes
Vastly different cultural expectations = bad sex for someone (usually the westerner)
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Womacks23 - 2010-11-26
Thora Wrote:So...I guess yellow fever is actully starfish fever. go figure...Yellow fever boy could never get laid back home anyway so he doesn't know any better.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - ファブリス - 2010-11-26
Funny how the topic title meaning went from "Japanese Lovers" to "Japanese Lovers"
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - ファブリス - 2010-11-26
This thread will auto-close in one page. Make your last words.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Thora - 2010-11-26
lol
So to sum things up then: Japanese are bad at sex ...when they're with westerners. It's a function of cultural difference, so the survey on Japanese couples' sexual satisfaction isn't applicable after all. Mixed couples have bad sex. Glad we got that all sorted out.
Hmm, I wonder what German men are like in bed? Probably excellent technique. I bet Scandanavian men would be really uninhibited, such progressive cultures. Brazilian men are world renowned...something to do with rhythm. I've heard wonderful things about Korean men ...full on passion. And Indian men have that kama sutra stuff in their blood. Italians? oh...I've heard they can make love, sing and cook at the same time. Belgians are the best, of course. ;-)
Such a shame they only mate well with their fellow citizens.
(Well, at least we were able to keep the topic from returning to that first "Japanese lover" topic for long enough)
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - kazelee - 2010-11-26
NB4 Lock
Reita-chan's secret
To sum:
Thora loves fluffy animals
Nest0r's into bumblebees.
Womacks has a thing for grizzly bears.
Aijin is all about the lovin.
I like turtles
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Tzadeck - 2010-11-26
I was supposed to go out with a Japanese girl tonight, but she had to work late and canceled. Thus, any and all sexist things said about Japanese women must be true, at least until I find something to do to keep myself from being bored tonight.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - bodhisamaya - 2010-11-26
Japanese lovers are the best because you can pretend not to understand Japanese afterwards. Just relax and sleep.
ZZzzzzzz.....
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - TheVinster - 2010-11-26
My final words in this thread...
Japan, stop censoring genitals in your porn.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Jarvik7 - 2010-11-26
They aren't censored. Japanese people just have naturally pixelated genitals. That is what probably causes all of the bad sex.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Thora - 2010-11-26
And NPG is highly contagious.
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - Offshore - 2010-11-27
How did this thread get into Japanese lovers being horrible in bed? lol
As for the actual video, whatever. It's pretty apparent it's some kind of joke aka not very serious within the first minute.
Also, just because someone has yellow fever doesn't mean they can't get laid at home. Just the vast majority of them
The Worst of the Japanese Lovers - dizmox - 2010-11-27
Maybe it's just the crowd my girlfriend hangs out with, but a lot of her friends seem to think sex is a chore. Apparently a couple she knows hasn't done anything in two years, that's something you'd expect from a middle aged couple!